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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 12:18pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Kind of the irony of Cole pitching so well that those plays were on three weakly-hit balls.

The announcers noted that Cole threw 18 more pitches that inning as a result of those errors. Then he pitched almost two more innings, two outs into the 7th. Smoltz said it was one of the most amazing pitching performances he had seen.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 12:05pm

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I saw a thing a few days ago that superstars tend to be weaker in the fundamentals than journeymen, and Volpe might not fit that description but it all seems true enough.

Kind of the irony of Cole pitching so well that those plays were on three weakly-hit balls.
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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 11:37am

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Not sure what he was thinking. He's a good defensive player too, he had made a terrific play earlier in the game. The throw to third was awkward too; a lot of times the shortstop will elect to throw to second in that situation, because the runner going to third can be in the way - as he was in that situation.


I saw a thing a few days ago that superstars tend to be weaker in the fundamentals than journeymen, and Volpe might not fit that description but it all seems true enough.
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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 11:33am

 steeler wrote:

And why was Judge looking at the base runner when he loses the ball on that rather shallow fly to center? No way the guy is going to tag at first and go to second. Threw away an otherwise great outing by Cole.

Not sure what he was thinking. He's a good defensive player too, he had made a terrific play earlier in the game. The throw to third was awkward too; a lot of times the shortstop will elect to throw to second in that situation, because the runner going to third can be in the way - as he was in that situation.
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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 11:28am

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Right all around but JFC it's the World Series, don't you bust ass to the base no matter what? I just thought it was weird that Cole gets all the heat when he (and I agree) clearly thought that Rizzo had the better shot.

And why was Judge looking at the base runner when he loses the ball on that rather shallow fly to center? No way the guy is going to tag at first and go to second. Threw away an otherwise great outing by Cole.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 11:18am

 steeler wrote:

Yes, but my understanding is that the first baseman waves off the pitcher if the first baseman is going to the base and not in need of lobbing it to the pitcher. Here, it appeared that Cole just assumed that is what Rizzo was going to do and stopped running. Also, if Rizzo always lobs it to the pitcher, why was Cole assuming otherwise?




Right all around but JFC it's the World Series, don't you bust ass to the base no matter what? I just thought it was weird that Cole gets all the heat when he (and I agree) clearly thought that Rizzo had the better shot.
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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 10:43am

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People are giving Gerritt Cole a lot of flak for not covering first but apparently Rizzo never takes the ball to first, ever. How is he not catching hell for that? Either of them could have maybe gotten the putout if they'd just done their little league best.


It's not exactly the Buckner play... they were down 3-1 in the series, and the center fielder and third baseman gave the Dodgers 2 extra outs in the inning.  Plenty of blame to go around, the difference is Rizzo's contract isn't being discussed right now.

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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 10:41am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

People are giving Gerritt Cole a lot of flak for not covering first but apparently Rizzo never takes the ball to first, ever. How is he not catching hell for that? Either of them could have maybe gotten the putout if they'd just done their little league best.


Yes, but my understanding is that the first baseman waves off the pitcher if the first baseman is going to the base and not in need of lobbing it to the pitcher. Here, it appeared that Cole just assumed that is what Rizzo was going to do and stopped running. Also, if Rizzo always lobs it to the pitcher, why was Cole assuming otherwise?


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Posted: Nov 5, 2024 - 10:22am

People are giving Gerritt Cole a lot of flak for not covering first but apparently Rizzo never takes the ball to first, ever. How is he not catching hell for that? Either of them could have maybe gotten the putout if they'd just done their little league best.

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Posted: Nov 2, 2024 - 8:11am

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i have a feeling that most peeps are going with the dodgers
they have better uniforms/colors too

so i'll take the yankees



my baseball cred was run-over by a van
and yes it was down by the river
and yes it was pancaked and last seen in a ditch
any questions?

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Posted: Nov 1, 2024 - 7:53pm

Pretty good analysis.

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Posted: Oct 30, 2024 - 4:10pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


ESPN wrote a piece that pretty much celebrated the guy's fandom 
"We always joke about the ball in our area," Capobianco, 38, said at a local bar after the game. "We're not going to go out of our way to attack. If it's in our area, we're going to 'D' up."Someone defends, someone knocks the ball. We talk about it. We're willing to do this. I know when I'm in the wrong and as soon as I did it, I was like, 'Boys I'm out of here,'" Capobianco told ESPN. "I patrol that wall and they know that."
JesseRogersESPN twitted:
Meet Austin Capobianco (middle), the fan that interfered with Mookie. I was talking to him at a local bar when a bunch of other fans asked him to take a pic with him and for his autograph. He was a beaut. Story up soon at ESPN: “If it’s in our area, we’re going to ‘D’ up.”





assholes, all
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Posted: Oct 30, 2024 - 3:08pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Not surprising... I guess ESPN contacted him to ask WTF he and his friend were thinking.


ESPN wrote a piece that pretty much celebrated the guy's fandom 
"We always joke about the ball in our area," Capobianco, 38, said at a local bar after the game. "We're not going to go out of our way to attack. If it's in our area, we're going to 'D' up."Someone defends, someone knocks the ball. We talk about it. We're willing to do this. I know when I'm in the wrong and as soon as I did it, I was like, 'Boys I'm out of here,'" Capobianco told ESPN. "I patrol that wall and they know that."
JesseRogersESPN twitted:
Meet Austin Capobianco (middle), the fan that interfered with Mookie. I was talking to him at a local bar when a bunch of other fans asked him to take a pic with him and for his autograph. He was a beaut. Story up soon at ESPN: “If it’s in our area, we’re going to ‘D’ up.”



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Posted: Oct 30, 2024 - 1:59pm

 steeler wrote:


Good to hear. That is the just outcome. Not only was it poor sportsmanship, Betts could have been hurt.


Twitter is full of posted clips of the incident. The main offender looks like a troll. Reminds me of Afraud Rodriguez's glove-slapping stunt in the '04 ALCS. 

I don't know if anyone here has posted about @ArtButMakeItSports on X but it's consistently great: 




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Posted: Oct 30, 2024 - 11:53am

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according to the article, Capobianco was the source of the misinformation. 


Not surprising... I guess ESPN contacted him to ask WTF he and his friend were thinking.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2024 - 11:52am

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Look as if ESPN was initially misinformed.


according to the article, Capobianco was the source of the misinformation. 

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Posted: Oct 30, 2024 - 11:08am

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Good to hear. That is the just outcome. Not only was it poor sportsmanship, Betts could have been hurt.

A similar (not as physical) incident happened to Betts five or six years ago in Houston when he was with Boston - a fan hit his glove as he was trying to close it, and the ball popped out.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2024 - 11:05am

 Proclivities wrote:

Good to hear. That is the just outcome. Not only was it poor sportsmanship, Betts could have been hurt.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2024 - 10:58am

 steeler wrote:

It is being reported that the two “fans” who were ejected last night will be allowed back in for Game 5 tonight. That speaks for itself, doesn’t it?

Looks as if ESPN was initially misinformed.

Yankees fans who interfered with Mookie Betts banned from World Series Game 5

...Capobianco told (ESPN's Jesse) Rogers that the Yankees, who refunded him the cost of the tickets for Game 5, also informed him that he would be arrested if he tried to attend the game.<
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