Red_Dragon wrote:

They seem to import their morale directly from the US. - Or?!
(The main one: Money doesn't stink.)

Fuck all these fuckers.

 R_P wrote:

How about some nukes, Uncle Joe?


Non.  Pas de tout.  That would remove the Israeli regional nuclear weapons monopoly.  Israel apparently 'needs' those weapons to help it gobble up the West Bank.  Israel does not seek any regional competition.  

ماذا عن بعض الأسلحة النووية ، العم جو؟

'sup w/this
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-...-idINS0N2Y004M

Quote:

U.S. approves potential sale of Patriot missiles to Saudi Arabia -Pentagon By Reuters Staff Aug 2 (Reuters) - The U.S. State Department has approved the potential sale of Patriot missiles and related equipment to Saudi Arabia in a deal valued at up to $3.05 billion, the Pentagon said on Tuesday.

Joe Biden's Submissive — and Highly Revealing — Embrace of Saudi Despots (Greenwald)
Biden's immediate abandonment of his 2020 vow to turn the Saudis into "pariahs," and his increasing support for the regime, shows the core deceit of U.S. propaganda.

The unstinting support of the Saudi regime by the Obama/Biden White House was not limited to obsequious gestures such as these. Their devotion to strengthening the despotic Saudi ruling family was far more substantial — and deadly. Obama's administration played a vital role in empowering the Saudi attack on Yemen, which created the world's worst humanitarian crisis: far worse than what has been taking place in Ukraine since the Russian invasion on February 24. In order to assuage the Saudis over his Iran deal, “Obama’s administration has offered Saudi Arabia more than $115 billion in weapons, other military equipment and training, the most of any U.S. administration in the 71-year U.S.-Saudi alliance,” reported Reuters in late 2016, just months before Obama and Biden left office.

Beyond the enormous cache of sophisticated weapons Obama/Biden transferred to the Saudis to use against Yemen and anyone else they decided to target, the Snowden archive revealed that Obama ordered significant increases in the amount and type of intelligence technologies and raw intelligence provided by the NSA to the Saudi regime. That intelligence was — and is — used by Saudi autocrats not only to identify Yemeni bombing targets but also to subject its own domestic population to rigid, virtually ubiquitous, surveillance: a regime of monitoring used to brutally suppress any dissent or opposition to the Saudi regime.

In sum, no hyperbole is required to observe that the Obama/Biden White House — along with their junior British counterparts — was singularly responsible for the ability of the Saudi regime to survive and to wage this devastating war in Yemen. But that is nothing new. The centerpiece of U.S. policy in the Middle East for decades has been to prop up Saudi despots with weapons and diplomatic protection in exchange for the Saudis serving U.S. interests with their oil supply and ensuring the use of the American dollar as the reserve currency on the oil market.

That is what made the hysterical reaction to Trump's reaffirmation of that relationship so nonsensical and deliberately deceitful. Trump was not wildly deviating from U.S. policy by embracing Saudi tyrants but simply continuing long-standing U.S. policy of embracing all sorts of savage despots all over the world whenever doing so advanced U.S. interests. Indeed, what angered the permanent ruling class in Washington was not Trump's policy of embracing the ruling Saudi monarchs, but rather his honesty and candor about why he was doing so. American presidents are not supposed to admit explicitly that they are overlooking the human rights abuses of their allies due to the benefits that relationship provides, even though that amoral, self-interested approach is and for decades has been exactly the foundational ideological premise of the bipartisan U.S. foreign policy class.

But this has been the core propagandistic framework employed by the DC ruling class since Trump was inaugurated. They routinely depicted him as an unprecedentedly monstrous figure who has vandalized American values in ways that would have been unthinkable for prior American presidents when, in fact, he was doing nothing more than affirming decades-old policy, albeit with greater candor, without the obfuscating mask used by American presidents to deceive the public about how Washington functions.

We are in WWIII now I truly believe.
If FDR can sit down with Stalin then we ain't to good to get this new terrorist in Moscow defeated.
But the last time Biden met with the Saudis he blew off the crazy murdering prince and dealt with the old man who also doesn't like his own relative. 
Turn on FOX high gas prices are killing us, so they should be cheering for Biden to get their F-150s & Silverados a cheaper fill up.

 kurtster wrote:
The Trump loved the Saudis. Biden will learn to love them (again) too. They got money and oil.

Buying oil from authoritarian regimes is unconscionable unless it's expedient.

More whataboutism.

I guess its okay when its about Trump though, right ?

 rgio wrote: 
Gotta feel good about patriots like Jared getting paid for all the hard work he and his Father-In-Law has done for America.
But nooooooooooo Biden has F-ed it up for everyone, including our heroes like Putin.

 kurtster wrote:

The money does help Americans.  Ask Jared how much he appreciates his $2Billion.  It's assumed that $50k per month paid for Hunter's influence, what do you get for 3,300 years of $50/k per month all at once from Jared?  

$2B....they LOVE US!!!!

The patriots in the American oil industry have decided that what's best for the oil industry is best for America.
Just ask Ted Cruz and all the other patriots in Texas. 
Everybody loves America!!!

 kurtster wrote:

Really. Just let the prices go up so much that the US companies decide it is worthwhile to open up more production. #SnarkInCaseYouDontKnow

 R_P wrote: 
Yeah, kiss anyone's ass so we don't have to use our own oil.

Better to send our money overseas to people that do not like us than keep it at home and benefit ourselves.

Biden's America Last policy ...

Biden to Travel to Saudi Arabia, Ending Its ‘Pariah’ Status

The visit represents the triumph of realpolitik over moral outrage, according to foreign policy experts.

 Animal-Farm wrote:

Oh that's just a conspiracy theory 

We Have New Evidence of Saudi Involvement in 9/11, and Barely Anyone Cares

BYBRANKO MARCETIC 
Jacobin Magazine

The FBI has quietly revealed further evidence of Saudi government complicity in the September 11 attacks — and nothing’s happened.

Last week, the FBI quietly declassified a 510-page report it produced in 2017 about the 9/11 terrorist attack twenty years ago. The disclosure is in accordance with President Joe Biden’s September 2021 executive order declassifying long-hidden government files about the attack, which many hoped would reveal what exactly US investigators knew about the Saudi Arabian government’s possible involvement.

According to an FBI communiqué dated to June 2017, from the late 1990s to September 11, 2001, al-Bayoumi “was paid a monthly stipend as a cooptee of the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency (GIP),” the country’s principal spy agency. The document notes that while his involvement with Saudi intelligence wasn’t confirmed at the time of the 9/11 Commission Report, the bureau has now confirmed it. In a separate 2017 document, bureau officials judge that “there is a 50/50 chance had advanced knowledge the 9/11 attacks were to occur.”

Saudi Arabia executes 81 men in one day, the biggest mass execution in decades

One of suspected killers of Saudi journalist Khashoggi arrested in France

Our guy MBS who buys our toys...

Biden Won’t Penalize Saudi Crown Prince Over Khashoggi’s Killing, Fearing Relations Breach
The decision will disappoint the human rights community and members of his own party who complained during the Trump administration that the U.S. was failing to hold Mohammed bin Salman accountable.