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Posted: Jan 27, 2016 - 12:10am

Megyn Kelly has cost Fox millions in ad revenue but look at why Fox are so hostile to Trump and yet softball Marco Rubio.

The Anti-Trump Network: Fox News Money Flows into Open Borders Group
The announcement from Donald Trump’s campaign that the Republican frontrunner will “definitely not” partake in Thursday night’s Fox News debate has sent shock waves throughout the nation’s political scene.
At a press event Tuesday evening, Trump seemed to cite disparate treatment from the network as his reasoning for not participating. “What’s wrong over there, something’s wrong,” Trump said of the “games” Roger Ailes and the network are “playing.”
In asking the question of “what’s wrong over there?” Trump has shined a spotlight on one of Washington’s best kept secrets: namely, Fox’s role via its founder Rupert Murdoch in pushing an open borders agenda. The Trump campaign is a direct threat to Murdoch’s efforts to open America’s borders. Well-concealed from virtually all reporting on Fox’s treatment of Trump is the fact that Murdoch is the co-chair of what is arguably one of the most powerful immigration lobbying firms in country, the Partnership for a New American Economy (PNAE).
In addition to blanketing the country, media, and politicians with literature, advertisements, and a barrage of lobbyists pushing for open border immigration policies, the Partnership for A New American Economy (PNAE) was a prime lobbyist for one of the biggest open borders pushes in American history: Sen. Marco Rubio’s 2013 Gang of Eight immigration bill.
While Donald Trump has pledged to deport those illegally residing in the country and temporarily pause Muslim migration, Rubio’s immigration bill would have granted immediate amnesty and eventual citizenship to millions of illegal aliens, it would have doubled the annual admission of foreign workers, and it would have dispensed 33 million green cards to foreign nationals in the span of a single decade despite current record immigration levels.
While Megyn Kelly made headlines with her heated questioning of Donald Trump, not one of the Fox News anchors asked Rubio in the first Fox News debate about his signature piece of legislation, which Murdoch’s immigration lobbying firm had endorsed. Instead, they lobbed Rubio a series of softballs, such as asking Rubio if he could put God and veterans in the same sentence.

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 8:37pm
islander wrote: Really, at what point will he peel off the mask and reveal (...)

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 8:30pm
DaveInVA wrote: Trump campaign says candidate won’t participate in Fox News/Google debate Really, at what point will he peel off the mask and reveal himself as Andy Kaufman? Tank you veddy much.

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 6:02pm
Trump campaign says candidate won’t participate in Fox News/Google debate

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 4:25pm
ScottN wrote: Perhaps not for money, but few run for POTUS for the salary and bennies. Ego is another matter altogether. The common thread in Trump's bloviation is his ego and narcissism. A match made in heaven with the American Id.

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 4:17pm
ScottN wrote: Perhaps not for money, but few run for POTUS for the salary and bennies. Ego is another matter altogether. The common thread in Trump's bloviation is his ego and narcissism. As opposed to his predecessors.

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 3:02pm

ChillBabe wrote:

... as a Trump stumper from day 1, I can tell you that he is the ONLY candidate of any party who has the passion for the work at hand. What is amazing, to me, is that he has not joined the many $billionaires who have already taken their money, corporations, jobs and families abroad, leaving the USA behind. Trump does NOT need the presidency ... I like that the most!

Perhaps not for money, but few run for POTUS for the salary and bennies.
Ego is another matter altogether. The common thread in Trump's bloviation is his ego and narcissism.

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 1:01pm

sirdroseph wrote:

And this is different than what we have already been doing in what way exactly?

The difference is in stated intent and somewhat in the reaction of the mob.

There have been many civilian casualties (not necessarily directly related to 'terrorists') that were simply marked up as collateral damage (which is likely to create more terrorists).

Here the game is notched up explicitly to another level. Collective punishment.

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 11:15am

kurtster wrote:

If he gets elected and doesn't get shot in his first term, he'll do two, with the 2020 election a snooze. After that, who knows.

We're in a paradigm shift and Trump is no doubt the most in touch with the real world viable candidate we've had in my memory. Real Estate is a whole different world in which few understand all the complexities involved. Having listened extensively to Trump since he started out, his language, terminology and phrasing was just exactly what you would here on any construction site, big or small. Trump can, not could, have an intelligent meaningful conversation with a guy using a shovel just as easily as someone in a board room, in front of a city council trying to get zoning changed or whatever. He is authentic. You can't fake trade talk, the kind heard on a job site. But I grew up in the business as a kid, so my perceptions will vary from those whose closest encounter to a hammer is a picture on Lowe's website.

The developer side of Trump is what makes his whole approach to everything different than from a legislator, banker, governor or industrialist. A real estate developer must identify a need and provide a solution or have a vision and build it with bricks and mortar. They must sell it as in pitch it, build it and deliver the goods. Priorities and budgets must be set and kept. Excuses don't work. A developer has to walk their talk. They must finish what they start. These are all the things that politicians are not and can't do. Nor bankers or industrialists. They get a golden parachute if they eff up. Politicians get hired by the oligarchs after they leave office.

So iffen yer tyred of kicking the can down the road ... Trump is the only one capable of stopping the insanity.

Extra credit reading ...

Faster And Cheaper, Trump Finishes N.Y.C. Ice Rink

... as a Trump stumper from day 1, I can tell you that he is the ONLY candidate of any party who has the passion for the work at hand. What is amazing, to me, is that he has not joined the many $billionaires who have already taken their money, corporations, jobs and families abroad, leaving the USA behind. Trump does NOT need the presidency ... I like that the most!

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 10:52am
Great post Kurtster! I've only been following Trump for a few months but what you say here echo's a lot of what I have seen in articles and footage.

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 9:50am

rotekz wrote:

This is great but has only been possible because of the parlous state of the media who freak out over the slightest PC infraction. He has played them and used it for endless free coverage. At the next election when he is POTUS things will be very different.

If he gets elected and doesn't get shot in his first term, he'll do two, with the 2020 election a snooze. After that, who knows.

We're in a paradigm shift and Trump is no doubt the most in touch with the real world viable candidate we've had in my memory. Real Estate is a whole different world in which few understand all the complexities involved. Having listened extensively to Trump since he started out, his language, terminology and phrasing was just exactly what you would hear on any construction site, big or small. Trump can, not could, have an intelligent meaningful conversation with a guy using a shovel just as easily as someone in a board room, in front of a city council trying to get zoning changed or whatever. He is authentic. You can't fake trade talk, the kind heard on a job site. But I grew up in the business as a kid, so my perceptions will vary from those whose closest encounter to a hammer is a picture on Lowe's website.

The developer side of Trump is what makes his whole approach to everything different than from a legislator, banker, governor or industrialist. A real estate developer must identify a need and provide a solution or have a vision and build it with bricks and mortar. They must sell it as in pitch it, build it and deliver the goods. Priorities and budgets must be set and kept. Excuses don't work. A developer has to walk their talk. They must finish what they start. These are all the things that politicians are not and can't do. Nor bankers or industrialists. They get a golden parachute if they eff up. Politicians get hired by the oligarchs after they leave office.

So iffen yer tyred of kicking the can down the road ... Trump is the only one capable of stopping the insanity.

Extra credit reading ...

Faster And Cheaper, Trump Finishes N.Y.C. Ice Rink

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 8:53am

sirdroseph wrote:

How do you think evangelicals can justify voting for Trump? It would just seem to me that they would be voting squarely against their principles to vote for a socially progressive, pro choice non religious candidate or am I missing something here? {#Stupid}

Trump is Presbyterian but he obviously doesn't go to church much. The evangelicals must like it when he says things like "Christianity is under tremendous siege". http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/266804-trump-christians-under-siege

As for abortion he was claiming to be pro-life yesterday, except in the most extreme circumstances. http://www.lifenews.com/2016/01/25/donald-trump-blasts-abortion-roe-v-wade-started-a-culture-of-death-killing-over-50-million-people/

EDIT Trump tweeted this tonight and he seems to think it's a big deal. I wouldn't know.

Great honor- Rev. Jerry Falwell Jr. of Liberty University, one of the most respected religious leaders in our nation, has just endorsed me!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 26, 2016

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 8:26am
rotekz wrote: Trump breaks 40% in CNN national poll of Republicans. How do you think evangelicals can justify voting for Trump? It would just seem to me that they would be voting squarely against their principles to vote for a socially progressive, pro choice non religious candidate or am I missing something here?

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 4:45am
Trump breaks 40% in CNN national poll of Republicans.

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 2:18am
RichardPrins wrote: The Know Nothing "movement" 2.0.1 seems rather apt. Donald Trump said he'd kill terrorists' families at a rally. His crowd went wild. And this is different than what we have already been doing in what way exactly?

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Posted: Jan 26, 2016 - 12:02am

kurtster wrote:

It should be inspiring to all those (which includes myself) who think that we need to take the money of running for higher office in this country. The richest candidate has spent the least amount of money and is on top of nearly every poll. Might be proof that he is the smartest candidate.

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Posted: Jan 25, 2016 - 10:31pm
Alpine wrote: So nice to return to these Radio Paradise forum pages and find this thread about Trump. There is hope for this country yet. Our eight year experiment is almost over. Yep only 360 days left. Nice to see you ! Stick around. Its calmed down some.

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Posted: Jan 25, 2016 - 10:07pm
Alpine wrote: So nice to return to these Radio Paradise forum pages and find this thread about Trump. There is hope for this country yet. Our eight year experiment is almost over. Well it looks like you survived. Congratulations on navigating the recovery.

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Posted: Jan 25, 2016 - 9:27pm
So nice to return to these Radio Paradise forum pages and find this thread about Trump. There is hope for this country yet. Our eight year experiment is almost over.

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Posted: Jan 25, 2016 - 9:20pm

Excellent post.

kurtster wrote:

fixed your link. Hard to argue with 538.

I do have a couple of degrees and one is a 4 year business degree and I support Trump.

I am angry for a lot of reasons, but mostly about illegal immigration. I believe that the core of Trump's support stems from this one issue, more than anything else. Its the first box to check on my list for any candidate. No different from those who look at abortion rights as their first box on their list.

In case its not been noticed, Trump is basically agnostic when it comes to religion. While he was raised in Norman Vincent Peale's church, I think he got more out the positive thinking part than the religious part. He's the only candidate on both sides who isn't talking much about social issues. How refreshing. No deceit there. He's sticking to economic and security issues, which includes securing the border. I've read his immigration paper and his tax plan. They are both of substance.

He is not a part of the global banking and industrial oligarchy. He owes them nothing and cannot be controlled by them. He understands how they get out of paying their fair share by merger's that take corporate headquarters overseas to avoid taxes which is called inversion and wants to stop it for openers. Currency manipulation is another. I don't think any other candidate can talk knowledgeably about inversion or currency off of the top of their head. He lives and breathes this stuff, knows it inside and out. That is his wheel house. He is also firmly opposed to the TPP, another important issue for me.

It is estimated that US corporations are sitting on at least $2 Trillion in cash overseas. He has a real tax plan to bring it back home. He is the only candidate talking about this as well. Just think about what that would do for our economy. That money would be pumped into our economy and create one hell of a business boom that would benefit all of us. Remember that a rising tide lifts all boats.

I've looked at many of the nuts and bolts of his plans and rhetoric and do not see deceit. What do you see about Trump that is deceitful / cunning ?

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The Anti-Trump Network: Fox News Money Flows into Open Borders Group

The announcement from Donald Trump’s campaign that the Republican frontrunner will “definitely not” partake in Thursday night’s Fox News debate has sent shock waves throughout the nation’s political scene.

Trump campaign says candidate won’t participate in Fox News/Google debate

Trump campaign says candidate won’t participate in Fox News/Google debate