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steeler

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 4:19pm

 haresfur wrote:


In any case, I try to live my life in a way that it doesn't matter if God exists or not. Think that through.*

 
That is how I see it.


haresfur

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 3:55pm

 oldviolin wrote:

What if there is a "God" and Trump is proof enough of that? Wait. Think it through now...

 
Would that mean an Old Testament God?
Or a New Testament God that saved us from Cruz?
Or just plain, "mysterious ways"?

In any case, I try to live my life in a way that it doesn't matter if God exists or not. Think that through.*

*with sincere respect to your beliefs and perspective. Yer a good bloke, OV.
islander

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 3:09pm

 oldviolin wrote:

What if there is a "God" and Trump is proof enough of that? Wait. Think it through now...

 
I don't want to start
Any blasphemous rumours
But I think that God's
Got a sick sense of humour
And when I die
I expect to find Him laughing
oldviolin

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 2:47pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
This man is the end of America as we know it. Period. This country will never be the same. I would say: "God help us." but there is no god. Trump is proof enough of that.

 
What if there is a "God" and Trump is proof enough of that? Wait. Think it through now...


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 2:20pm

Because science is a liberal conspiracy.
Herkyman

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 11:53am

Hmmmm... that "Not my president" rhetoric sounds familiar... oh yeah.... the idiots at KKK said the same thing when President Obama got elected! Geez! Be original people! Lol!

Me? Give the guy a chance... and if he messes up, I know he will be booted in 4 years... 

What is REALLY hilarious is all those Republicans in Congress that spoke ill of President elect Trump, are now kissing his behind!  And all those Democrats that were worshiping Hillary, are now looking for someone else to worship...

In the mean time the whole world is watching....

 
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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 10:31am


We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!




Steely_D

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 8:20am

 BlueHeronDruid wrote: 
Well, there's a reason this happened.
And I've sent contributions monthly for more than 25 years.


islander

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 8:16am

 kurtster wrote:

As if no one has been endlessly crying about Bush during the same time, long after he's been gone.  I'm out numbered 10 to 1 on that.
.
CLICKY   and look at the most recent postings dates.  It never ended.

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and if you go back and re read the chain, I did not bring up the non voting.  I simply responded (it was in the article) with an acknowledgement of the subject and indicated that it had no bearing on what was being talked about at the time nor was I interested in talking about it.

 
So how do you feel about his team and potential cabinet so far?  From here it looks like a mix of insiders and lobbyists (all sycophants).  He's already walking back commitments (probably good). You don't "drain the swamp", by inviting the mayor of swamptown to join your team.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 5:48am


NoEnzLefttoSplit

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 12:17am

 Steely_D wrote:

1) I think many people are used to an America with a thoughtful, centered, effective leader. They've had one for 8 years. Inasmuch as most folks growing up have mostly just worried about their WiFi signal and not massive civil rights issues, this might be a nice kick in the ass that they need to work to keep America on the right path. It may mobilize the younger generation to get more involved to make social issues match their beliefs rather than leave negative changes unchallenged.

2) Trump talked big in order to get people to put him in office, but is already starting to back down from his platform. His team removed a promise to remove Muslims from his website. The big beautiful wall is now becoming a metaphor instead. He agreed that part of Obamacare might need to stay. Now that he's convinced people to put him in office, he has little need to fulfill his promises to those who voted him in. He's already President-Elect and they can't rescind. Simply dragging his feet or claiming political pressures prevent him from real change - these aren't impeachable offenses.

What we've learned now: the GOP had no viable leadership to stop the hostile takeover by an outsider and is therefore basically an anachronism; the Democratic party didn't provide an attractive enough candidate to win against a political virgin; and, we are about to enter a couple of years where the GOP will have every opportunity to implement their vision to improve America and then they will lose in the midterms.

The pressure right now is on our youth, to steer our nation.
But mostly, the pressure is on the Republican party. They have the reins and if this country goes to hell we all know exactly whose fault it is.
And they should never ever get another chance at anyone's vote if their leadership drags the nation down.

 
 
BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 - 12:01am

 kurtster wrote:

Thanks, Obama!

 


ScottN

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Posted: Nov 11, 2016 - 9:34pm

 Steely_D wrote:

1) I think many people are used to an America with a thoughtful, centered, effective leader. They've had one for 8 years. Inasmuch as most folks growing up have mostly just worried about their WiFi signal and not massive civil rights issues, this might be a nice kick in the ass that they need to work to keep America on the right path. It may mobilize the younger generation to get more involved to make social issues match their beliefs rather than leave negative changes unchallenged.

2) Trump talked big in order to get people to put him in office, but is already starting to back down from his platform. His team removed a promise to remove Muslims from his website. The big beautiful wall is now becoming a metaphor instead. He agreed that part of Obamacare might need to stay. Now that he's convinced people to put him in office, he has little need to fulfill his promises to those who voted him in. He's already President-Elect and they can't rescind. Simply dragging his feet or claiming political pressures prevent him from real change - these aren't impeachable offenses.

What we've learned now: the GOP had no viable leadership to stop the hostile takeover by an outsider and is therefore basically an anachronism; the Democratic party didn't provide an attractive enough candidate to win against a political virgin; and, we are about to enter a couple of years where the GOP will have every opportunity to implement their vision to improve America and then they will lose in the midterms.

The pressure right now is on our youth, to steer our nation.
But mostly, the pressure is on the Republican party. They have the reins and if this country goes to hell we all know exactly whose fault it is.
And they should never ever get another chance at anyone's vote if their leadership drags the nation down.

 
 Nice to have a thoughtful optimist around.  We can hope...


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 11, 2016 - 7:57pm

We'll be attending this tomorrow. It seems better than just giving up in the face of insanity.
Steely_D

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Posted: Nov 11, 2016 - 7:49pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
This man is the end of America as we know it. Period. This country will never be the same. I would say: "God help us." but there is no god. Trump is proof enough of that.

 
1) I think many people are used to an America with a thoughtful, centered, effective leader. They've had one for 8 years. Inasmuch as most folks growing up have mostly just worried about their WiFi signal and not massive civil rights issues, this might be a nice kick in the ass that they need to work to keep America on the right path. It may mobilize the younger generation to get more involved to make social issues match their beliefs rather than leave negative changes unchallenged.

2) Trump talked big in order to get people to put him in office, but is already starting to back down from his platform. His team removed a promise to remove Muslims from his website. The big beautiful wall is now becoming a metaphor instead. He agreed that part of Obamacare might need to stay. Now that he's convinced people to put him in office, he has little need to fulfill his promises to those who voted him in. He's already President-Elect and they can't rescind. Simply dragging his feet or claiming political pressures prevent him from real change - these aren't impeachable offenses.

What we've learned now: the GOP had no viable leadership to stop the hostile takeover by an outsider and is therefore basically an anachronism; the Democratic party didn't provide an attractive enough candidate to win against a political virgin; and, we are about to enter a couple of years where the GOP will have every opportunity to implement their vision to improve America and then they will lose in the midterms.

The pressure right now is on our youth, to steer our nation.
But mostly, the pressure is on the Republican party. They have the reins and if this country goes to hell we all know exactly whose fault it is.
And they should never ever get another chance at anyone's vote if their leadership drags the nation down.


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 11, 2016 - 7:45pm

Schools Report Racist Incidents in Wake of Trump Election


surprise! surprise! surprise!

kurtster

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Posted: Nov 11, 2016 - 7:36pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Just this. You have been crying about Obama for most of a decade. It's been a nonstop wail for eight. long. years.
 

 
As if no one has been endlessly crying about Bush during the same time, long after he's been gone.  I'm out numbered 10 to 1 on that.
.
CLICKY   and look at the most recent postings dates.  It never ended.

.
and if you go back and re read the chain, I did not bring up the non voting.  I simply responded (it was in the article) with an acknowledgement of the subject and indicated that it had no bearing on what was being talked about at the time nor was I interested in talking about it.


kurtster

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Posted: Nov 11, 2016 - 7:19pm

 BlueHeronDruid wrote:

This happened.

And this happened.

And then this happened.

Cry? I'm weeping, white boy. Not about him, but what he's unleashed.

WTF  has happened to this country, indeed. 

 
Yeah, its all Trumps fault.

See below. 
kurtster

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Posted: Nov 11, 2016 - 7:18pm

 kcar wrote:

Real simple: Trump is a crazy, hate-filled liar with no experience. He could set this country back years, even decades in some areas. 

Trump got about 27% of the "voting-eligible population’s vote."   Not exactly a ringing endorsement by Americans. 
  

 Have a good weekend, kurtster. 

 
Could say the same thing if Hillary won.  What's your point ?

Not voting is its own problem, separate from the one at hand.

Now getting back to your earlier response.

kcar wrote:

Imagine that the most obnoxious, arrogant and incompetent fool has become your boss, landlord/mortgage manager, the mayor and the head of police in your town. He has no experience in any of those positions. His promises of the things he's going to do while in those positions show that he doesn't understand the law/Constitution or the consequences of fulfilling those promises. 

He's alienated a lot of people who'd normally be his allies. He has promised to persecute people based on their ethnic background and religion. He has all the hallmarks of an emotionally disturbed narcissist. He angers very easily, lies all the time and is a sexual predator. He's repeatedly ripped people off in business. 

And oh yes: the pile of crap that fell on you in that scenario has now fallen on everyone in the country. 

I keep posting the link to this Vox story on these pages but let's do it again. Here are the details of the sh—tstorm headed your way:
  
 
 Donald Trump’s presidency is going to be a disaster for the white working class 
  
Vox, eh ?   Another innocent independent media organization with no apparent agenda or bias, right ?

In August 2015, NBCUniversal made a $200 million equity investment in Vox Media Inc., valuing the company at more than $1 billion.

 Riiiight ...  More of the same from one of the purveyors of the Anti Trump left wing media narrative that tried to destroy Trump at all costs and invested so heavily in predicting everything wrong so far about this election and its outcome.  And you're throwing out more predictions of gloom and doom from someone who has gotten everything else wrong so far, like all the others who never saw what was coming, when it was plain as day.

Your set up and the narrative preceding has made Trump look worse than the Devil incarnate.  Hitler is a nice guy compared to Trump, listening to all of this propaganda.  And what's worse, you all believe it.  And since you all believe it, you are all crying because your worst fears spoon fed into y'all's echo chamber are coming true.

Finally we are seeing the results of a generation sheltered from controversy, adversity, opposing views and especially competition that ends with no winners or losers.  No trophies for the winners, but participation trophies for everyone, that deny the achievements of the winners so no ones feelings get hurt.  A generation that has been sheltered by political correctness.  Got to have those safe spaces, because its too hard to cover your ears and scream la, la, la, la, la until the offending noise goes away.  Free speech be damned, anywhere.

I was raised by sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.  Of course its easier said than done.  But we now have a generation that has never even been challenged with words let alone losing a competition.  A generation that can't handle someone pointing their fingers and saying bang without psychiatric care to overcome the trauma.  Now adults are behaving the same way.

Its so bad that I fear when they finally inherit responsibility for this country and have to defend it, all an invading foreign aggressor has to do is say, your Momma wears combat boots and they will shrink in terror and surrender the country.  The invaders won't even need actual weapons.  A flippin generation of what used to be called candy asses and pantie wastes.

Your departing leader ...



{#Cowboy}
 

 
 


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Nov 11, 2016 - 7:17pm

This man is the end of America as we know it. Period. This country will never be the same. I would say: "God help us." but there is no god. Trump is proof enough of that.
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