Please enlighten me. He was talking about school shootings and the fact that he thinks there needs to be more security at schools, right? And he said it is a fact of life. Was he saying that it is a fact of life that we need more security at schools? If so, why do you think there needs to be more security? Shootings, right? I'm sorry, but I am missing the point of your stance here.
*edit* I am not trying to be argumentative
The error you're making here is interpreting what you believe Vance was saying - and skipping over how this info came to be under discussion (it's media source). And it matters naught whether your interpretation is perfectly accurate or completely wrong in every aspect. The entire point - and why you're discussing the words of Vance - is because AP made a FACTUAL error by stating AS A QUOTE words that Vance DID NOT UTTER. Deliberate or otherwise, that doesn't matter. The AP error received at least 2.9M views before they deleted it. And the fake quote went viral - which is how it got posted here - and why the claimed quote is under discussion.
AP's job is to report the news. Factual news. AP's fake Vance quote did not carry a byline/author. AP's job is NOT to speculate, offer opinion, or interpret what someone said - unless their resulting article is clearly labelled as opinion. This news item from AP was not labeled as opinion. Again, they presented Vance's words as JD Vance says school shootings are a 'fact of life', (ie get used to it, citizens) ... The use of the symbol for single quote ( ' ) means a quote within a quote. And those words were no such thing.
AP presented Vance's words as a quote - and they were wrong to do so - which is why they deleted their original tweet and replaced it with this. Note the change in context - from JUST GET OVER IT to We must do something about it. HUGE difference. Context is everything. And even here, AP fails to post the entire quote. Utterly shameful.
WHAT HE ACTUALLY SAID:
Meanwhile, here's your candidate for President, Dems:
Your job, as a consumer of news, is to detect if/when the headline accurately represents the article / news within. AP has failed here. And it's not the first time media have posted factually wrong information. Strangely, the media errors seem to only benefit one candidate in this election.
Now if you believe this lengthy post of mine on this incident is merely a different opinion on semantics, then you've learned nothing. Media bias is real. Not every article from a given media outlet is biased, but biased articles do emerge from all media outlets.
Here's a photo of Kamala harassing innocent puppies. Wait until you hear the obscenities she uttered about those puppies!
I found the pic on the Internet (made it myself) so it must be true. That poor puppy on the left. So sad.
It is so easy to prove if she wants to. Social Security will have a record of payments made to her account from that employment. She just has to produce it. Never heard of a Mickey D's paying anyone under the table, ever. My SS records go back to the early 70's at the very least, should be into the 60's but I haven't looked in a long time.
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Until proven otherwise it's just another one of her tall tales told for the express purpose of political pandering to a particular audience. You really gotta ask yourself why someone would even bother to lie about working at McDonalds.
Why is her repeated claim of having worked at McDonaldâs for a brief period of time being questioned? Trump said she made it up. What proof is there of that? This is beginning to sound a bit like the questioning of Obamaâs birth certificate.
I do not know whether it is true or false, but I am wondering what â if anything â prompted the questioning of its veracity.
It is so easy to prove if she wants to. Social Security will have a record of payments made to her account from that employment. She just has to produce it. Never heard of a Mickey D's paying anyone under the table, ever. My SS records go back to the early 70's at the very least, should be into the 60's but I haven't looked in a long time.
. Harris Claims She Worked at McDonald's in College. Here's What We Know
Okay, "unproven" so far. It is odd to see the SS statements - there were jobs I forgot I had on there.
You aren't voting for the guy. What else could you be trying to do ?
So what about Kamala's lie about working at McDonalds ? Of all the things in the world to lie about in a presidential campaign, that is a really bad one.
It is so easy to prove if she wants to. Social Security will have a record of payments made to her account from that employment. She just has to produce it. Never heard of a Mickey D's paying anyone under the table, ever. My SS records go back to the early 70's at the very least, should be into the 60's but I haven't looked in a long time. . Until proven otherwise it's just another one of her tall tales told for the express purpose of political pandering to a particular audience. You really gotta ask yourself why someone would even bother to lie about working at McDonalds.
You aren't voting for the guy. What else could you be trying to do ?
So what about Kamala's lie about working at McDonalds ? Of all the things in the world to lie about in a presidential campaign, that is a really bad one.
You mean the people that you trust completely and believed everything they told you about Biden's state of well being. That is until the debate shocked you and everyone else about how much you were being lied to by the ones you trusted so implicitly.
So you still trust the ones who have been lying and gaslighting you about everything in regards to all things political ? The list is endless.
You have trusted the wrong people for too long. They control your mind. There is nothing anyone can say to help you understand the statement you refer to.
Your dialog in the mirror is telling. You are ridiculously ironic kurtster.
What exactly is the source you are using to base your conclusions about the remark ? Can you link it ? It would be helpful if you are truly seeking an answer and not just being argumentative.
You mean the people that you trust completely and believed everything they told you about Biden's state of well being. That is until the debate shocked you and everyone else about how much you were being lied to by the ones you trusted so implicitly.
So you still trust the ones who have been lying and gaslighting you about everything in regards to all things political ? The list is endless.
You have trusted the wrong people for too long. They control your mind. There is nothing anyone can say to help you understand the statement you refer to.
You mean the people that you trust completely and believed everything they told you about Biden's state of well being. That is until the debate shocked you and everyone else about how much you were being lied to by the ones you trusted so implicitly.
So you still trust the ones who have been lying and gaslighting you about everything in regards to all things political ? The list is endless.
You have trusted the wrong people for too long. They control your mind. There is nothing anyone can say to help you understand the statement you refer to.
Rather than trying to hijack the conversation into the realm of "you're being duped" and "I'm sticking with Trump", why don't you talk about JD Vance and his positions on matters like school killings, gun control or even child care costs?
If you're feeling really ambitious, we can head over to the "Trump" or "Project 2025" thread and talk substantively about how Trump's plans to alter the healthcare system in the US pose a real threat to your access to affordable health care. Or other life-and-death matters like that.
You mean the people that you trust completely and believed everything they told you about Biden's state of well being. That is until the debate shocked you and everyone else about how much you were being lied to by the ones you trusted so implicitly.
So you still trust the ones who have been lying and gaslighting you about everything in regards to all things political ? The list is endless.
You have trusted the wrong people for too long. They control your mind. There is nothing anyone can say to help you understand the statement you refer to.
Your dialog in the mirror is telling. You are ridiculously ironic kurtster.
I was actually trying to understand where the misunderstanding was in the statement and the press.
In the press ?
You mean the people that you trust completely and believed everything they told you about Biden's state of well being. That is until the debate shocked you and everyone else about how much you were being lied to by the ones you trusted so implicitly.
So you still trust the ones who have been lying and gaslighting you about everything in regards to all things political ? The list is endless.
You have trusted the wrong people for too long. They control your mind. There is nothing anyone can say to help you understand the statement you refer to.
You aren't voting for the guy. What else could you be trying to do ?
So what about Kamala's lie about working at McDonalds ? Of all the things in the world to lie about in a presidential campaign, that is a really bad one.
I was actually trying to understand where the misunderstanding was in the statement and the press.
You rarely make sense Kurt. You really expect her to have McDonald's on her CV?
You aren't voting for the guy. What else could you be trying to do ?
So what about Kamala's lie about working at McDonalds ? Of all the things in the world to lie about in a presidential campaign, that is a really bad one.
Please enlighten me. He was talking about school shootings and the fact that he thinks there needs to be more security at schools, right? And he said it is a fact of life. Was he saying that it is a fact of life that we need more security at schools? If so, why do you think there needs to be more security? Shootings, right? I'm sorry, but I am missing the point of your stance here.
*edit* I am not trying to be argumentative
Asked about the Georgia shooting while speaking at a campaign rally in Phoenix, Arizona, on Thursday evening, Vance said: âI donât like this. I donât like to admit this. I donât like that this is a fact of life. But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realise that our schools are soft targets.â https://www.theguardian.com/us...
Vance, arguing in favor of more security in schools to prevent shootings while speaking at a rally in Phoenix, said, âI donât like that this is a fact of life . . . but if you are psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets.â https://www.forbes.com/sites/s...
What do you think it is he doesn't like? I think he was referring to shootings.
He didn't say that, SFB. You've a victim, probably a willing one, of bad journalism, and spreading lies and propaganda.
Asked about the Georgia shooting while speaking at a campaign rally in Phoenix, Arizona, on Thursday evening, Vance said: âI donât like this. I donât like to admit this. I donât like that this is a fact of life. But if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realise that our schools are soft targets.â https://www.theguardian.com/us...
Vance, arguing in favor of more security in schools to prevent shootings while speaking at a rally in Phoenix, said, âI donât like that this is a fact of life . . . but if you are psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets.â https://www.forbes.com/sites/s...
What do you think it is he doesn't like? I think he was referring to shootings.
He didn't say that, SFB. You've a victim, probably a willing one, of bad journalism, and spreading lies and propaganda.
Yeah, so he want's to "harden security" because, oh so sad, having widespread access to weapons means that this is a fact of life*. It is not a fact of life in most of the world.
* Yeah, I agree with him that hardening security is needed in the US, although if you read the accounts of the shooting, they had already done that. The kid couldn't get back into his classroom because the door locks from the inside and a student noticed his gun and didn't let him in. They invoked their shooter protocols but it didn't save everyone. Fact of life. Much more restricted access to guns and ammunition would reduce the shootings. He is just pretending that he would do anything effective that hasn't already been done.
