cc_rider wrote: 
Yep,they only have some olive oil,bad wine and crappy hotels,I say..bye bye Greece !
..oh, and cocky waiters.

 HazzeSwede wrote: 
Um, yeah. The referendum thing was a non-starter from the git-go: it was just a tactic to allow the politicians to say 'not my fault' when the citizens vote NOT to fall on their collective swords.

I don't see how the Greeks are going to agree to draconian cuts in spending, and I don't see how the rest of the EU (well, Germany) is gonna put up with eating the massive debts they've piled up. Apparently Greeks have raised tax-dodging to an art form, so it's gotta rankle the hard working, tax paying members of the EU. But can the EU really afford to let Greece go down the drain? Too big to fail? Where is the accountability?

I see parallels here at home, but that's another rant...

Is so screwed.

i want saganaki! 

 miamizsun wrote: 
Yeah, I just love the way the IMF puts our kids on the hook for everybody's debts.

Central Bankers/Banking in action.

Mal-investment, corrupt leadership, strung out on credit via fiat money poofed(created) out of thin air.

It's a recipe for disaster.

We're on the same path, along with 15 - 20 other countries.

And we're all in trouble to varying degrees.

Grecians should be revolting, they've been robbed.

 cc_rider wrote:  Dats right.

 jadewahoo wrote:
  My thoughts exactly. Mother Earth will recover from our foibles quite well, once she evicts her most destructive tenants.

 BlueHeronDruid wrote: 
Or Denmark.  

Once again the greed and disdain of the Corporatists raping and pillaging the resources and trust of yet another country reap their inevitable outcome: Disability, destruction and disintegration of a society coupled with the demand that the common citizen pay the ransom to the IMF and WMF to sustain the entitlements of the privileged.

Is the US next? Not next, necessarily, but the sucker punch dealt this country by the Corporatists of Goldmann Sachs and their curmudgeon cotillerie of bankers and con-artists such as Rove, Cheney and Geithner is but round one. They will await the minor recuperation of the US economy so they can demand even further blackmail payments under threat of total annihilation of the society's ability to sustain itself, so as to twist every remaining drop of water from the damp towel of Americans' productivity.

And whom do you have to thank for this? Republicans? Democrats? Nah. These are but the stage show puppets meant to distract the public's eye from the string pullers who sit in gluttonous opulence in the Corporate thrones of the world. And as long as the sheep continue to bleat their hatred and ignobility, regurgitating the Corporatists' scripted daily screed for the masses, disseminated through the likes of Fox and CNN and MSNBC, while fed a warm Super-Sized MacMeal and Kool-Aid, there will be no opposition in the US streets as Greece has. Contentment breeds arrogance.

Step upon the mat that lies at the threshold of the second decade of the 21st Century. Look up. Do you see that iron heel coming towards you? It is about to scrape the mud from its boot upon your life and that of your children. Say nothing. You are allowed your voice only with your vote, this 'privilege and honor and responsibility of citizenship', this manipulated sham that keeps you thinking you actually have a say in your own demise. Drink another beer and rant about 'them damned others'. Or take refuge in the newage paradigm that 'we only get the government we deserve'. Either way, the boot is about to crush all that remains of the fantasy of freedom.

Me? I am placing my hopes in a few more volcanoes and earthquakes, maybe an asteroid or two, eh? Why not? Seems as fatalistically feasible as the fostered psychopathologies of polarity politics and a caring God.

 icee wrote: 
True on both counts. It's the second one that's the bigger concern.

 cookinlover wrote: 



If? More like when.

And I don't think they're down with the god thing.

 BlueHeronDruid wrote: 
God help us all if China takes control of the world.

 BlueHeronDruid wrote: 
Nope, they're the landlords.

 cookinlover wrote: 
Their economies are growing and strong. And there's that debt thing....

 BlueHeronDruid wrote: 
They're far from bullet proof... if America and the rest of the world can no longer afford to buy their products or services, they'll fall, too.

 cookinlover wrote: 
Not China or India.

 musik_knut wrote: 
and the rest of the world.

Greece has crossed a threshold the US is approaching...