My first husband...used apples, and the conversion rate was one-and-one-half bushels of apples to one gallon of fuel produced.  Yeah.  AND, rather than become useless, the "waste" (processed grain or apples or potatoes, or anything else, for that matter) actually produces a better stock-feed source (livestock feed) after processing (this is a de-naturing process, w/out removing the resultant fusile oil, so don't drink...LoL!)—it doesn't deplete the food value, and makes the food easier to digest, making usage by stock animals more efficient.  ALSO....and get THIS one....nearly zero carbon footprint in the burning, because CO2 is claimed from the atmosphere in the processing (denaturing, not distillation, remember), and then released back in the burning.  Burns more efficiently, too, 60% higher mpg ratings.  Hm.....

Older Than Dirt wrote:  "Most of our table sugar now comes from third world countries like Indonesia or Mexico, where it is priced much lower than we could produce it domestically.  These are some of the same countries that are suffering from the price increases in food corn.  The US produces most of the corn and other grains they depend on to feed their people.  Our diversion of that grain to ethanol production has put a big dent in their food supply.  IMHO, that's the big slam on hfcs.  The thinking is that if we use less hfcs, there will be more corn to feed these hungry people - or more to convert into ethanol.

Wouldn't it be more effective for us to give up on ethanol (which, when the production and transportation is considered, cause more pollution than gasoline), and use energy sources that don't starve people?"  

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Okay, I know this isn't the orignal subject (hfcs), but a resultant side-thread....bear w/ me, plz...

LOVE your handle, btw...

This subject is interesting to me, because it simply doesn't have to be this way.  Case in point:  

My first husband, to whom I was married for nearly 20 years, is an engineer, but never worked "for the man."  Lately, his project has been producing his own fuel, since he has been telling everyone for years that it is not only cost effective, contrary to what we're told, but it DOESN'T deplete the animal food source (i.e., stock feed).  The results?  Check this out....

This year, he used apples, and the conversion rate was one-and-one-half bushels of apples to one gallon of fuel produced.  Yeah.  AND, rather than become useless, the "waste" (processed grain or apples or potatoes, or anything else, for that matter) actually produces a better stock-feed source (livestock feed) after processing (this is a de-naturing process, w/out removing the resultant fusile oil, so don't drink...LoL!)—it doesn't deplete the food value, and makes the food easier to digest, making usage by stock animals more efficient.  ALSO....and get THIS one....nearly zero carbon footprint in the burning, because CO2 is claimed from the atmosphere in the processing (denaturing, not distillation, remember), and then released back in the burning.  Burns more efficiently, too, 60% higher mpg ratings.  Hm.....

....have we been lied to again??  Follow the money trail.....  The idea isn't defunct; the people wanting to make use of it are corrupt.

Kymelian