onlylynne wrote: 
lynne, can you weigh in on why i should avoid antibacterial soap?

 romeotuma wrote: 
And of course:

 phineas wrote: 
    You so bad!

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It's hard to find any liquid soap that's not antibacterial. I have to be persistent.

 lily34 wrote: 
I'm not sure.  It really depends on the mechanisms of anti-bac soaps and how likely it is that bacteria (and others) will evolve past them.  For instance, its pretty hard for anything to survive in concetrated bleach, but there are things that do.  However these aren't really the sorts of things that are likely to do you much harm, so it doesn't matter.  So if the things that have a reasonable hope of getting through anti-bac and building a resistance are pathogens (ie will make you ill) then we should be aiming to go easy.  At the same time we really don't want to try and kill them once they have infected you, because thats even harder!

 romeotuma wrote: 
I have been trying (not hard enough) to move away from those kinds of foods, but Whole Foods meats are very expensive. I haven't yet been able to convince myself to become a vegetarian.

 onlylynne wrote: 
Its very true.  And once they evolve past standard anti-biotics we have very little that will do the trick.  Anti-biotic soap is less likely to be out-evolved so quickly, but its pretty hard to use against salmonella (I once saw a letter in a paper asking why it was so hard to kill MRSA if you could use soap to get it off your hands...).  But most of our anti-biotics are just souped up penicilling (or so I understand) so theres not much more that we can do until we invent a new anti-biotic, or start developing 'active' drugs that are essentially white blood cells or an equivallent...

 onlylynne wrote: 
i just heard about MRSA for the first time a couple months ago. never knew of it. amazing.

so is it true - we should stay away from antibacterial soaps, too??

 onlylynne wrote: 
The reason I said she was young was because 1) you would think that your body could fight off this kind of thing when you are in your 20s and 2) maybe because of her young age, (and her father being a dentist), maybe she got a lot of antibiotics over her lifetime and is already unable to fight off this kind of bacteria.

 onlylynne wrote: 
Will they still accept something that is so long overdue?

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We've tried to stay away from the antibacterial soaps. Seems, sometimes, that most of them on the store shelves are AB...

 hippiechick wrote: 
How awful.
This is only going to get worse. We are seeing many different resistant bugs these days.
MRSA is not the only thing to worry about. It's just gotten the most press so far.

 onlylynne wrote: 
My brother's young girlfriend got a case of salmonella that was so resistant to treatment that it took 4 months and that the drs. had to use an experimental drug thatcost $14,000 per dose to knock it out. And she seems to still have a very low resistance.

 romeotuma wrote:  Absolutely. All that is just going to make the problem worse.
And so many other products that are antibacterial. They prey on people's fears.

 musik_knut wrote: 
Over twenty-six years ago, I wrote my microbiology term paper on the dangers of overusing antibiotics.
They should have listened! 

 romeotuma wrote: 
Thank you for reminding me

 onlylynne wrote: 

lynne,
Greetings...

Oh, but doctors are and have been for sometime, handing out antibiotics as if they are candies. The emerging health crisis due to a swarm of superbugs is almost upon us. It takes years to create a new family of antibiotics.
mk

 MrsHobieJoe wrote: 
I am glad that doctors aren't just handing out antibiotics for everything.
However, I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling bad. Load up on vitamin C and zinc and gargle with hot salt water frequently.

Obama calls cloning 'dangerous, profoundly wrong'

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama says human cloning is "dangerous, profoundly wrong" and has no place in society.
Obama made the comments as he was signing an executive order that will allow federal spending on embryonic stem cell research.

Some critics say the research can lead to human cloning. Obama said the government will develop strict guidelines for the research because misuse or abuse is unacceptable.

He said he would ensure that the government never opens the door to the use of cloning for human reproduction

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Finally, some sense in the use of embryonic stem cells. I thought Team Bush was too rigid in this area. I could not agree more with President Obama on NO HUMAN CLONING.

 romeotuma wrote: 

more folks die from alcohol than from pot...one is legal, one is not...

 romeotuma wrote: 

romeo,
I'm so sorry to hear of the loss of your best friend...stay steadfast with good memories.

Greetings again to Brad and Tina...

Marijuana has so many uses...now if I could recall them?
Legalized mariujuana would eliminate one drug in the bag of drug dealers and it would generate revenue. If legalized, I would immediately buy stock in companies that make snack foods...

mk

Opinion: Medical Marijuana Benefits
Mitch Earleywine Argues For The Use Of Medical Marijuana

Mitch Earleywine, Ph.D. is an associate professor of psychology at SUNY Albany who believes marijuana should be legalized for medical purposes.

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Therapeutic use of marijuana has a history spanning over 4,500 years.
The most humane and just approach to helping the sick requires that we continue the availability of medical marijuana. Evidence supporting medical marijuana for appetite loss, glaucoma, nausea, vomiting, spasticity, pain, and weight loss is quite impressive. Evidence for its use for arthritis, dystonia, insomnia, seizures, and Tourette's syndrome is also very promising.

Opponents of medical marijuana mention that other drugs are available for each of these disorders. Nevertheless, people differ. We have multiple treatments for almost every human problem. Some patients do not respond well to other medications and need medical marijuana to alleviate their symptoms. Many pharmaceutical drugs create aversive side effects that these patients cannot endure. In addition, medical marijuana is often markedly cheaper than these other medications.

Opponents of medical marijuana often point to dronabinol, the synthetic version of one of marijuana's active ingredients that is available in pill form. The use of only one active ingredient makes dronabinol less effective than medical marijuana. Many ailments respond better to a combination of marijuana's active ingredients rather than just one. In addition, because dronabinol is a pill, it is difficult for people with nausea and vomiting to swallow. Finally, like any medication that's swallowed, dronabinol takes a long time to digest and have its effects. Inhaled marijuana vapors can work markedly faster.

Concern over marijuana's impact on respiratory health is easily remedied. There are no links between marijuana use and lung cancer or emphysema. The associations between smoked marijuana and symptoms like coughing and wheezing can be remedied with the vaporizer. The vaporizer heats the plant so that active ingredients boil off into a fine mist but the plant itself never ignites. The mist contains no tars or noxious gases, making respiratory complications a thing of the past.