Doves — Jetstream
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Tall machines wait in line
So still lost in time
Jets turn and make no sound
Returning to the solid ground
People drift out of time
Watching numbers turn
Seems that I've been waiting here forever
Jetstream
Stormy seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream
I've seen the sleeping ships at night
I will meet you there
The roar of the engine in the air (Jetstream)
Leave the things you don't need
And the ones that you don't love
Faith and hope
Keeps our minds together
Your heart's left the ground tonight
Scattered lost in light
Seems that I've been waiting here forever
Jetstream
Carbon seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream
I've seen the silent jets at night
I will meet you there
The roar of the engine high in the air (Jetstream)
Sleeping ships in the night
Shining steel lost in time
Jets turn, make no sound
Returning to the safer ground
People running outta time
Lost in love, last in line
Seems I've waited here forever
Jetstream
Stormy seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream
I see the silent jets at night
I will take you there
The roar of the engine pollutes the air
Jetstream
So still lost in time
Jets turn and make no sound
Returning to the solid ground
People drift out of time
Watching numbers turn
Seems that I've been waiting here forever
Jetstream
Stormy seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream
I've seen the sleeping ships at night
I will meet you there
The roar of the engine in the air (Jetstream)
Leave the things you don't need
And the ones that you don't love
Faith and hope
Keeps our minds together
Your heart's left the ground tonight
Scattered lost in light
Seems that I've been waiting here forever
Jetstream
Carbon seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream
I've seen the silent jets at night
I will meet you there
The roar of the engine high in the air (Jetstream)
Sleeping ships in the night
Shining steel lost in time
Jets turn, make no sound
Returning to the safer ground
People running outta time
Lost in love, last in line
Seems I've waited here forever
Jetstream
Stormy seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream
I see the silent jets at night
I will take you there
The roar of the engine pollutes the air
Jetstream
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I love Doves- so many absolutely rock solid songs. I'm always pleasantly surprised when I hear them anywhere. Thanks RP!
robspeds wrote:
The models cannot predict the weather 1 week in advance. You trust the info produced by the models that will predict climate change? Maybe climate change will increase the evaporation rate and supply rainwater that will replenish aquifers in regions that need it most! Hard to go through life believing the doom and gloom MSM. Remember that is what gets ratings....great song by a great band btw...
A week in advance there's usually 5-6 models in play. Some very similar. Those get a high confidence level. Others show variations one way of the other. Low confidence.
The models cannot predict the weather 1 week in advance. You trust the info produced by the models that will predict climate change? Maybe climate change will increase the evaporation rate and supply rainwater that will replenish aquifers in regions that need it most! Hard to go through life believing the doom and gloom MSM. Remember that is what gets ratings....great song by a great band btw...
A week in advance there's usually 5-6 models in play. Some very similar. Those get a high confidence level. Others show variations one way of the other. Low confidence.
oldsaxon wrote:
Please...please...stop lumping Canada in with the US...please.
I can see that. By the way, moving to Canada is looking better and better! That is, if Canada doesn't mind some refugees from the US who are looking to escape fascism. I'm hoping Canada is cool with this...
Please...please...stop lumping Canada in with the US...please.
I can see that. By the way, moving to Canada is looking better and better! That is, if Canada doesn't mind some refugees from the US who are looking to escape fascism. I'm hoping Canada is cool with this...
tm wrote:
also, climate is predictable.
i'd really like to understand the motivation of the deniers.
personally i think it's a weird sort of "hero affinity". Going against the consensus, even if, or maybe _especially_ if, you don't understand the thing you are railing against makes you look "brave and heroic" ?
hard to say.
i think some people are just happy to be contrarian, the problem is that there are a lot of people, e.g. oil companies, who are not just contrarian but are flat out lying, and they know they are.
Climate change denier on RP - just when you thought a good thing couldn’t bring the stupid…. Science is real, weather is predictable you complete utter waste of skin.
also, climate is predictable.
i'd really like to understand the motivation of the deniers.
personally i think it's a weird sort of "hero affinity". Going against the consensus, even if, or maybe _especially_ if, you don't understand the thing you are railing against makes you look "brave and heroic" ?
hard to say.
i think some people are just happy to be contrarian, the problem is that there are a lot of people, e.g. oil companies, who are not just contrarian but are flat out lying, and they know they are.
robspeds wrote:
The models cannot predict the weather 1 week in advance. You trust the info produced by the models that will predict climate change? Maybe climate change will increase the evaporation rate and supply rainwater that will replenish aquifers in regions that need it most! Hard to go through life believing the doom and gloom MSM. Remember that is what gets ratings....great song by a great band btw...
I guess any effort to observe the absurdity of what you appear to think is a really sharp observation is a waste of effort. However, if you cannot see that trends developing over decades to centuries (climate) and next weeks weather are profoundly different, go on believing any fantasy you wish. One segment of the society is trying to understand global scale phenomena and to develop approaches to mitigate effects that will be detrimental to human society and another segment of the same society seeks short term political gain by preying on the ignorance and superstition of the less well-educated. Why you choose to listen to one set of poorly-supported opinions and to ignore all the evidence that indicates rapid climate change, is your issue to understand. I surely cannot.
The models cannot predict the weather 1 week in advance. You trust the info produced by the models that will predict climate change? Maybe climate change will increase the evaporation rate and supply rainwater that will replenish aquifers in regions that need it most! Hard to go through life believing the doom and gloom MSM. Remember that is what gets ratings....great song by a great band btw...
I guess any effort to observe the absurdity of what you appear to think is a really sharp observation is a waste of effort. However, if you cannot see that trends developing over decades to centuries (climate) and next weeks weather are profoundly different, go on believing any fantasy you wish. One segment of the society is trying to understand global scale phenomena and to develop approaches to mitigate effects that will be detrimental to human society and another segment of the same society seeks short term political gain by preying on the ignorance and superstition of the less well-educated. Why you choose to listen to one set of poorly-supported opinions and to ignore all the evidence that indicates rapid climate change, is your issue to understand. I surely cannot.
Climate change denier on RP - just when you thought a good thing couldn’t bring the stupid….
Science is real, weather is predictable you complete utter waste of skin.
danfl75 wrote:
The models cannot predict the weather 1 week in advance. You trust the info produced by the models that will predict climate change? Maybe climate change will increase the evaporation rate and supply rainwater that will replenish aquifers in regions that need it most! Hard to go through life believing the doom and gloom MSM. Remember that is what gets ratings....great song by a great band btw...
Climate change anyone? The models have been much more accurate than the opposing pundits supporting fossil fuel greed, and now some models are skewing much higher, like +5C by 2100. Pay attention everyone, this is critical! We can all do better and the solution requires public policy. Hold your leaders accountable if you can.
The models cannot predict the weather 1 week in advance. You trust the info produced by the models that will predict climate change? Maybe climate change will increase the evaporation rate and supply rainwater that will replenish aquifers in regions that need it most! Hard to go through life believing the doom and gloom MSM. Remember that is what gets ratings....great song by a great band btw...
mrtuba9 wrote:
shameless *bump*
7 years and 2 "shameless bumps" later, and you finally got one thumbs up. Congratulations...
shameless *bump*
7 years and 2 "shameless bumps" later, and you finally got one thumbs up. Congratulations...
Climate change anyone? The models have been much more accurate than the opposing pundits supporting fossil fuel greed, and now some models are skewing much higher, like +5C by 2100. Pay attention everyone, this is critical! We can all do better and the solution requires public policy. Hold your leaders accountable if you can.
"Jetstream
Carbon seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream ...
Shining steel lost in time ...
People running outta time ...
Jetstream
Stormy seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream ...
The roar of the engine pollutes the air"
Also love the reference to the inhumanity of waiting in airports and the hope of fresh horizons. This song drives me forward to an awesome 9. Great album too.
"Jetstream
Carbon seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream ...
Shining steel lost in time ...
People running outta time ...
Jetstream
Stormy seas
Cast adrift on a troubled dream ...
The roar of the engine pollutes the air"
Also love the reference to the inhumanity of waiting in airports and the hope of fresh horizons. This song drives me forward to an awesome 9. Great album too.
TerryS wrote:
From the Globe and Mail: Does it cost more to live in Canada or the U.S.? Depends if you have kids - https://www.theglobeandmail.co...
Ahh, but their cost of living is 56% higher than the US, hence only 37% higher than YVR, on a salmon run standard.
From the Globe and Mail: Does it cost more to live in Canada or the U.S.? Depends if you have kids - https://www.theglobeandmail.co...
rheckel wrote:
As much as I enjoy this song, I would hate it if RP played this more often to the exclusion or diminution of Shpongle or Cab Calloway or (whatever the hell you were trying to reference there). The Epiphany Of Mrs. Kugla will get me to crank up the volume quicker than anything from Doves (no slight to the boys from Cheshire, just that TEOMK is amazing) and Minnie The Moocher still brings a smile to my lips more often than not.
And one should always strive to be humble; acknowledging your lack of it is perhaps the first step to getting there.
This piece, and many others from Doves, is about fifty or seventy light years ahead of Sphongle. or Cab Caloway, or dub stumble stupor, in my very non-humble opinion. But that's only one person's opinion, eh?
As much as I enjoy this song, I would hate it if RP played this more often to the exclusion or diminution of Shpongle or Cab Calloway or (whatever the hell you were trying to reference there). The Epiphany Of Mrs. Kugla will get me to crank up the volume quicker than anything from Doves (no slight to the boys from Cheshire, just that TEOMK is amazing) and Minnie The Moocher still brings a smile to my lips more often than not.
And one should always strive to be humble; acknowledging your lack of it is perhaps the first step to getting there.
Doves are finally working on a new album!
Piranga wrote:
As an album, this is superb start to finish. Good for a long drive.
At least half the songs on this record are phenomenal, including this one!
As an album, this is superb start to finish. Good for a long drive.
At least half the songs on this record are phenomenal, including this one!
mrtuba9 wrote:
shameless *bump*
jeetttstreaaaaammmmmaammm!
shameless *bump*
This piece, and many others from Doves, is about fifty or seventy light years ahead of Sphongle. or Cab Caloway, or dub stumble stupor, in my very non-humble opinion. But that's only one person's opinion, eh?
Actually the Sash Remix bests the original version.
Ahh, but their cost of living is 56% higher than the US, hence only 37% higher than YVR, on a salmon run standard.
Kaw wrote:
I would say Iceland tops the list if you look at population.
UK is my favourite. (I'm from the Netherlands)
Iceland? Yes. On a population weighted basis, it may get more turns on RP than any other country. Excuse me if I lumped Iceland in with Scandinavia.
Iceland punches well above its weight in several categories.
1) Ability to quickly recover from a domestic financial crisis. (Seriously, the rest of us are not worthy!)
2) Film
3) Film settings
4) Fine, high quality, intensively managed sea-run brown trout and Atlantic salmon fly fishing in an absolutely stupendous natural setting.
5) Big icecap close at hand..... for those who like skiing across the icecap.
I would say Iceland tops the list if you look at population.
UK is my favourite. (I'm from the Netherlands)
Iceland? Yes. On a population weighted basis, it may get more turns on RP than any other country. Excuse me if I lumped Iceland in with Scandinavia.
Iceland punches well above its weight in several categories.
1) Ability to quickly recover from a domestic financial crisis. (Seriously, the rest of us are not worthy!)
2) Film
3) Film settings
4) Fine, high quality, intensively managed sea-run brown trout and Atlantic salmon fly fishing in an absolutely stupendous natural setting.
5) Big icecap close at hand..... for those who like skiing across the icecap.
westslope wrote:
On a proportional basis in terms of rotation on radio paradise, I reckon that Canada punches well above its demographic weight and that is with little or no québécois pop music (which is excellent IMO). Quebec comprises a little over 20% of the Canadian population.
On a proportional basis, Scandinavia punches even higher than Canada.
Naturally, it is hard not to play British acts. Instead of painting half the world red, the British now offer some of the best quality contemporary music to be found anywhere.
In that respect I reckon that US radio paradise listeners are very lucky to get this kind of cosmopolitan exposure. Then radio paradise plays more than a few obscure American acts that would get little or no airplay elsewhere.
My wish list: more Israeli music, more Arab music, more of the lesser known Argentinian and Brazilian music. Artists and musicians are the messengers of social change. They should be 'engaged' everywhere all the time.
I would say Iceland tops the list if you look at population.
UK is my favourite. (I'm from the Netherlands)
On a proportional basis in terms of rotation on radio paradise, I reckon that Canada punches well above its demographic weight and that is with little or no québécois pop music (which is excellent IMO). Quebec comprises a little over 20% of the Canadian population.
On a proportional basis, Scandinavia punches even higher than Canada.
Naturally, it is hard not to play British acts. Instead of painting half the world red, the British now offer some of the best quality contemporary music to be found anywhere.
In that respect I reckon that US radio paradise listeners are very lucky to get this kind of cosmopolitan exposure. Then radio paradise plays more than a few obscure American acts that would get little or no airplay elsewhere.
My wish list: more Israeli music, more Arab music, more of the lesser known Argentinian and Brazilian music. Artists and musicians are the messengers of social change. They should be 'engaged' everywhere all the time.
I would say Iceland tops the list if you look at population.
UK is my favourite. (I'm from the Netherlands)
rdo wrote:
..... For quality music, the UK is clearly the best, USA/Canada second, then Scandanavia. .....
On a proportional basis in terms of rotation on radio paradise, I reckon that Canada punches well above its demographic weight and that is with little or no québécois pop music (which is excellent IMO). Quebec comprises a little over 20% of the Canadian population.
On a proportional basis, Scandinavia punches even higher than Canada.
Naturally, it is hard not to play British acts. Instead of painting half the world red, the British now offer some of the best quality contemporary music to be found anywhere.
In that respect I reckon that US radio paradise listeners are very lucky to get this kind of cosmopolitan exposure. Then radio paradise plays more than a few obscure American acts that would get little or no airplay elsewhere.
My wish list: more Israeli music, more Arab music, more of the lesser known Argentinian and Brazilian music. Artists and musicians are the messengers of social change. They should be 'engaged' everywhere all the time.
..... For quality music, the UK is clearly the best, USA/Canada second, then Scandanavia. .....
On a proportional basis in terms of rotation on radio paradise, I reckon that Canada punches well above its demographic weight and that is with little or no québécois pop music (which is excellent IMO). Quebec comprises a little over 20% of the Canadian population.
On a proportional basis, Scandinavia punches even higher than Canada.
Naturally, it is hard not to play British acts. Instead of painting half the world red, the British now offer some of the best quality contemporary music to be found anywhere.
In that respect I reckon that US radio paradise listeners are very lucky to get this kind of cosmopolitan exposure. Then radio paradise plays more than a few obscure American acts that would get little or no airplay elsewhere.
My wish list: more Israeli music, more Arab music, more of the lesser known Argentinian and Brazilian music. Artists and musicians are the messengers of social change. They should be 'engaged' everywhere all the time.
For some reason I'm REALLY digging this! Like okdokie 
I like the other stuff I have heard off this album but this one not so much. All the electronic noises here seem very obvious and distracting rather than enhancing.
ziggytrix wrote:
I'm with ziggytrix!
stegokitty wrote:
I'm just the opposite. I think Coldplay is the watered-down shit version of Doves. No accounting for taste eh?
But it's back to form again, and sounds (to me) like a poor man's Coldplay.
I'm just the opposite. I think Coldplay is the watered-down shit version of Doves. No accounting for taste eh?
I'm with ziggytrix!
stegokitty wrote:
I'm just the opposite. I think Coldplay is the watered-down shit version of Doves. No accounting for taste eh?
But it's back to form again, and sounds (to me) like a poor man's Coldplay.
I'm just the opposite. I think Coldplay is the watered-down shit version of Doves. No accounting for taste eh?
Funny - I always like the Doves, never love them, but think I "should." Just something missing that I can't point my finger on...? 
Blah ... a 3 for me.
Okay ... I was about to press enter and then the groove started (minus vocals) and sounded pretty cool.
But it's back to form again, and sounds (to me) like a poor man's Coldplay.
It remains a 3 in my book.
Okay ... I was about to press enter and then the groove started (minus vocals) and sounded pretty cool.
But it's back to form again, and sounds (to me) like a poor man's Coldplay.
It remains a 3 in my book.
jeetttstreaaaaammmmmaammm!
Great song. Doves also digitally-released an instrumental version of the album, Instrumentals of Rust, on which this track is even more powerful IMO.
rdo wrote:
I agree that, traditionally, it worked that way, kind of. Germans loved music and so they made great music (chicken vs egg argument). The dominant cultures set the agenda, true. But not now. I don't agree that is the case. Oh yes, for the Britany Spears and Lady Ga Gas, that is true. Strip tease/sex always sells. But now, we can compare music the world over. For quality music, the UK is clearly the best, USA/Canada second, then Scandanavia. I think it would be interesting to understand why. I think the reason is that Germany is so entrenched in its past, and the UK was free from the shackles of a strong institutional tradition, that it will be awhile yet before the pendulum swings in the other direction............
Rdo, et.al.:
Hmmmm....not sure about that, though at a base level I'd argue a country with great food makes not so great music. France? Great food. Name me the last anyone's music from their region. UK? Food...bleech....music? Great. Germany? Scandinavia? Somewhere in between on both.
I jest...but it does seem to be somewhat pertinent although I'll admit the logical fallacy of the arguement. BUT....this is a Western ego-centric "thang," ain't it? The East has produced some stunning music. India, China, Japan. But it certainly isn't modeled on Western ideals what with their particular tonalities and such. So for me it comes to this. Music, like all art, an be considered in the eye of the beholder. But it's made by human beings. As such, and as a non-musician, it's interesting to me. It's one of the reasons I like RP so much. Pablum ain't their musical style, and I appreciate hearing stuff I would never, ever, hear otherwise sprinkled thru that I do (more) easily recognize. . To RP I say...keep up the good work. It certainly beats machine programmed pap.
Just sayin'...
Highlow
American Net'Zen
I agree that, traditionally, it worked that way, kind of. Germans loved music and so they made great music (chicken vs egg argument). The dominant cultures set the agenda, true. But not now. I don't agree that is the case. Oh yes, for the Britany Spears and Lady Ga Gas, that is true. Strip tease/sex always sells. But now, we can compare music the world over. For quality music, the UK is clearly the best, USA/Canada second, then Scandanavia. I think it would be interesting to understand why. I think the reason is that Germany is so entrenched in its past, and the UK was free from the shackles of a strong institutional tradition, that it will be awhile yet before the pendulum swings in the other direction............
Rdo, et.al.:
Hmmmm....not sure about that, though at a base level I'd argue a country with great food makes not so great music. France? Great food. Name me the last anyone's music from their region. UK? Food...bleech....music? Great. Germany? Scandinavia? Somewhere in between on both.
I jest...but it does seem to be somewhat pertinent although I'll admit the logical fallacy of the arguement. BUT....this is a Western ego-centric "thang," ain't it? The East has produced some stunning music. India, China, Japan. But it certainly isn't modeled on Western ideals what with their particular tonalities and such. So for me it comes to this. Music, like all art, an be considered in the eye of the beholder. But it's made by human beings. As such, and as a non-musician, it's interesting to me. It's one of the reasons I like RP so much. Pablum ain't their musical style, and I appreciate hearing stuff I would never, ever, hear otherwise sprinkled thru that I do (more) easily recognize. . To RP I say...keep up the good work. It certainly beats machine programmed pap.
Just sayin'...
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Wow, I thought this was new Tears for Fears! Love it!!! 
oldsaxon wrote:
Please...please...stop lumping Canada in with the US...please.
Must have something to do with the weather
Please...please...stop lumping Canada in with the US...please.
Must have something to do with the weather
rdo wrote:
I agree that, traditionally, it worked that way, kind of. Germans loved music and so they made great music (chicken vs egg argument). The dominant cultures set the agenda, true. But not now. I don't agree that is the case. Oh yes, for the Britany Spears and Lady Ga Gas, that is true. Strip tease/sex always sells. But now, we can compare music the world over. For quality music, the UK is clearly the best, USA/Canada second, then Scandanavia. I think it would be interesting to understand why. I think the reason is that Germany is so entrenched in its past, and the UK was free from the shackles of a strong institutional tradition, that it will be awhile yet before the pendulum swings in the other direction............
Please...please...stop lumping Canada in with the US...please.
I agree that, traditionally, it worked that way, kind of. Germans loved music and so they made great music (chicken vs egg argument). The dominant cultures set the agenda, true. But not now. I don't agree that is the case. Oh yes, for the Britany Spears and Lady Ga Gas, that is true. Strip tease/sex always sells. But now, we can compare music the world over. For quality music, the UK is clearly the best, USA/Canada second, then Scandanavia. I think it would be interesting to understand why. I think the reason is that Germany is so entrenched in its past, and the UK was free from the shackles of a strong institutional tradition, that it will be awhile yet before the pendulum swings in the other direction............
Please...please...stop lumping Canada in with the US...please.
AGREE!!!!moodfood wrote:
-- groovy baby -- -- groovy baby -- can you say beatles? i thought you could ...
gillespp wrote:
Thanks for reviving the video link from the Grade 7 kids! I was thrilled to learn recently from one of the moms of these students (brushed by each other in the mall) that Jack is readying for high school graduation by taking multiple multimedia courses and doing filmmaking on the side. Plant in a seed in a youngster's brain, and there's no telling where he/she might take it. Jack spearheaded the Doves project, and just ran with it. I was blown away.
... and a bump up past all the chatter about Germans.
Thanks for reviving the video link from the Grade 7 kids! I was thrilled to learn recently from one of the moms of these students (brushed by each other in the mall) that Jack is readying for high school graduation by taking multiple multimedia courses and doing filmmaking on the side. Plant in a seed in a youngster's brain, and there's no telling where he/she might take it. Jack spearheaded the Doves project, and just ran with it. I was blown away.
Grab guitar jam in A fun fun fun
I like this.
mrtuba9 wrote:
... and a bump up past all the chatter about Germans.
... and a bump up past all the chatter about Germans.
jlind wrote:
I personally think it's a 7 because it really sounds like their other stuff, not to mention a ton of other stuff. Although they did basically invent this sound, they really haven't innovated it much. When I first heard them circa 2001 I thought they were going to be the next thing, but I really think they turned out to be another cold play: one innovation and done.
When did Coldplay innovate something?
First time I heard them, I thought Thom Yorke had offed himself and Radiohead got themselves another singer!
And this is my first Doves experience... solid 7!
I personally think it's a 7 because it really sounds like their other stuff, not to mention a ton of other stuff. Although they did basically invent this sound, they really haven't innovated it much. When I first heard them circa 2001 I thought they were going to be the next thing, but I really think they turned out to be another cold play: one innovation and done.
When did Coldplay innovate something?
First time I heard them, I thought Thom Yorke had offed himself and Radiohead got themselves another singer!
And this is my first Doves experience... solid 7!
This just made me want to take a couple of aspirin, lay down and listen to silence for a long while.
rdo wrote:
Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up). I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition. Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees. Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior. It hardly shows up on the radar. I cannot think of one decent German performer. France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
Wow, I think this makes so much sense. Maybe that explains the modern music that Germany is known for (it ain't their pop rock).
Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up). I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition. Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees. Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior. It hardly shows up on the radar. I cannot think of one decent German performer. France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
Wow, I think this makes so much sense. Maybe that explains the modern music that Germany is known for (it ain't their pop rock).
sajitjacob wrote:
I agree that, traditionally, it worked that way, kind of. Germans loved music and so they made great music (chicken vs egg argument). The dominant cultures set the agenda, true. But not now. I don't agree that is the case. Oh yes, for the Britany Spears and Lady Ga Gas, that is true. Strip tease/sex always sells. But now, we can compare music the world over. For quality music, the UK is clearly the best, USA/Canada second, then Scandanavia. I think it would be interesting to understand why. I think the reason is that Germany is so entrenched in its past, and the UK was free from the shackles of a strong institutional tradition, that it will be awhile yet before the pendulum swings in the other direction............
In reply to both rdo and highlowsel
I would suggest in this case the tyranny of language and not culture (as long as we stay in the west) can be blamed.
Classical music is largely instrumental, Italian opera dominated at the time 'cause they invented it. Similarly English rock/pop dominates because it was invented in the English speaking world and non English acts sing in English if they want to be heard outside of their country.
Sir Bill often play non English acts, which could be why we're all here.. I guess.
Rock me Amadeus.
rdo wrote:
Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up). I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition. Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees. Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior. It hardly shows up on the radar. I cannot think of one decent German performer. France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
I would suggest in this case the tyranny of language and not culture (as long as we stay in the west) can be blamed.
Classical music is largely instrumental, Italian opera dominated at the time 'cause they invented it. Similarly English rock/pop dominates because it was invented in the English speaking world and non English acts sing in English if they want to be heard outside of their country.
Sir Bill often play non English acts, which could be why we're all here.. I guess.
Rock me Amadeus.
rdo wrote:
Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up). I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition. Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees. Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior. It hardly shows up on the radar. I cannot think of one decent German performer. France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
I agree that, traditionally, it worked that way, kind of. Germans loved music and so they made great music (chicken vs egg argument). The dominant cultures set the agenda, true. But not now. I don't agree that is the case. Oh yes, for the Britany Spears and Lady Ga Gas, that is true. Strip tease/sex always sells. But now, we can compare music the world over. For quality music, the UK is clearly the best, USA/Canada second, then Scandanavia. I think it would be interesting to understand why. I think the reason is that Germany is so entrenched in its past, and the UK was free from the shackles of a strong institutional tradition, that it will be awhile yet before the pendulum swings in the other direction............
Grating.
How even a fan of the band would vote this one as "God-like" is unfathomable.
God-like? Really?
Someone's standards are very low.
How even a fan of the band would vote this one as "God-like" is unfathomable.
God-like? Really?
Someone's standards are very low.
In reply to both rdo and highlowsel
I would suggest in this case the tyranny of language and not culture (as long as we stay in the west) can be blamed.
Classical music is largely instrumental, Italian opera dominated at the time 'cause they invented it. Similarly English rock/pop dominates because it was invented in the English speaking world and non English acts sing in English if they want to be heard outside of their country.
Sir Bill often play non English acts, which could be why we're all here.. I guess.
Rock me Amadeus.
rdo wrote:
Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up). I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition. Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees. Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior. It hardly shows up on the radar. I cannot think of one decent German performer. France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
I would suggest in this case the tyranny of language and not culture (as long as we stay in the west) can be blamed.
Classical music is largely instrumental, Italian opera dominated at the time 'cause they invented it. Similarly English rock/pop dominates because it was invented in the English speaking world and non English acts sing in English if they want to be heard outside of their country.
Sir Bill often play non English acts, which could be why we're all here.. I guess.
Rock me Amadeus.
rdo wrote:
Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up). I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition. Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees. Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior. It hardly shows up on the radar. I cannot think of one decent German performer. France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
AT first he sounds a bit like Roland Orzabal.
Highlowsel wrote:
RDO: What's up with the Germans? Don't get me wrong they're a strong people on any number of levels. But Rock involves a certain emotional commitment and "ear." It isn't what you'd call mechanistic, although that idea is open to interpretation. It has a wild edge to it. The Germans, as a society, tend to be less emotional and very mechanistic. I find it a hysterical irony of history that they share a border with a society well known for their emotional aspect, the French. It's no wonder history witnessed them going nuts with each other from time to time. In any case this is my subjective answer to your question.
Just some thoughts.
Great tune by the way.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up). I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition. Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees. Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior. It hardly shows up on the radar. I cannot think of one decent German performer. France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
RDO: What's up with the Germans? Don't get me wrong they're a strong people on any number of levels. But Rock involves a certain emotional commitment and "ear." It isn't what you'd call mechanistic, although that idea is open to interpretation. It has a wild edge to it. The Germans, as a society, tend to be less emotional and very mechanistic. I find it a hysterical irony of history that they share a border with a society well known for their emotional aspect, the French. It's no wonder history witnessed them going nuts with each other from time to time. In any case this is my subjective answer to your question.
Just some thoughts.
Great tune by the way.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Actually, up until the early 20th century no other county had anywhere near the illustrious music tradition of Germany/Austria, which was considered supreme beyond all comparison (I am not making this up). I am of course referring to the "classical", or what I'd prefer to call the institutional music tradition. Countries like Italy, France, and Russia were highly regarded, second-tier musical cultures, while those like England, USA and Sweden were considered inferior by large degrees. Now, in non-institutional music, it's Germany that is inferior. It hardly shows up on the radar. I cannot think of one decent German performer. France, Italy and Russia lag too, yet the UK, US and Scandinavia reign supreme.
rdo wrote:
Interesting. I agree England has better Rock music. What's up with Germany? Seriously, why don't we hear anything from there?
RDO: What's up with the Germans? Don't get me wrong they're a strong people on any number of levels. But Rock involves a certain emotional commitment and "ear." It isn't what you'd call mechanistic, although that idea is open to interpretation. It has a wild edge to it. The Germans, as a society, tend to be less emotional and very mechanistic. I find it a hysterical irony of history that they share a border with a society well known for their emotional aspect, the French. It's no wonder history witnessed them going nuts with each other from time to time. In any case this is my subjective answer to your question.
Just some thoughts.
Great tune by the way.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
Interesting. I agree England has better Rock music. What's up with Germany? Seriously, why don't we hear anything from there?
RDO: What's up with the Germans? Don't get me wrong they're a strong people on any number of levels. But Rock involves a certain emotional commitment and "ear." It isn't what you'd call mechanistic, although that idea is open to interpretation. It has a wild edge to it. The Germans, as a society, tend to be less emotional and very mechanistic. I find it a hysterical irony of history that they share a border with a society well known for their emotional aspect, the French. It's no wonder history witnessed them going nuts with each other from time to time. In any case this is my subjective answer to your question.
Just some thoughts.
Great tune by the way.
Highlow
American Net'Zen
jeetttstreaaaaammmmmaammm!
michaelgmitchell wrote:
Deserves a hot link to the video... https://vimeo.com/23420607
michaelgmitchell wrote:
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.
This, coming from Cynaera back in December, I am deeply humbled. Because I always valued her thoughts on these forums and comment threads.
I never knew a thing about the woman, but it's clear she left a mark with many. That's all we can ask ... is to leave something significant behind.
/M.
'Boober', thanks!
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
https://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this: My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief. And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it! It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics. Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
https://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.
This, coming from Cynaera back in December, I am deeply humbled. Because I always valued her thoughts on these forums and comment threads.
I never knew a thing about the woman, but it's clear she left a mark with many. That's all we can ask ... is to leave something significant behind.
/M.
Deserves a hot link to the video... https://vimeo.com/23420607
Booring
Stingray wrote:
Interesting. I agree England has better Rock music. What's up with Germany? Seriously, why don't we hear anything from there?
Great-great band!
In the end - though it's possibly a silly thing to say - I believe
that England makes the better music (for me anyway),
but that USA has the better (trained) musicians!
Interesting. I agree England has better Rock music. What's up with Germany? Seriously, why don't we hear anything from there?
michaelgmitchell wrote:
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.
This, coming from Cynaera back in December, I am deeply humbled. Because I always valued her thoughts on these forums and comment threads.
I never knew a thing about the woman, but it's clear she left a mark with many. That's all we can ask ... is to leave something significant behind.
/M.
'Boober', thanks!
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
https://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this: My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief. And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it! It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics. Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
https://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.
This, coming from Cynaera back in December, I am deeply humbled. Because I always valued her thoughts on these forums and comment threads.
I never knew a thing about the woman, but it's clear she left a mark with many. That's all we can ask ... is to leave something significant behind.
/M.
mrtuba9 wrote:
NONE! Not even Bev on the drums!
Is there a little ELO sampling in this?
NONE! Not even Bev on the drums!
Great-great band!
In the end - though it's possibly a silly thing to say - I believe
that England makes the better music (for me anyway),
but that USA has the better (trained) musicians!
ððððð
le_colonel wrote:
Right. I love almost everything else they've done, but this one only gets a 6. Other tracks off this CD still really excite me whenever I hear them.
Oh how I love this band...
This is not their best song, but even their worst is still 8.
Right. I love almost everything else they've done, but this one only gets a 6. Other tracks off this CD still really excite me whenever I hear them.
Well shite. That link's gone, Cynaera. Sure sounded good, though. OK, take it back, just saw the patch. Agreed, brilliant.
Cynaera wrote:
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this: My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief. And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it! It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics. Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.
AGREED
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this: My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief. And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it! It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics. Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.
AGREED
Is there a little ELO sampling in this?
Alexandra wrote:
Kraftwerk Numbers kickin in just past the 3:00 mark
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
Kraftwerk Numbers kickin in just past the 3:00 mark
dug the Doves but hadn't heard this one till now. it's a keeper
michaelgmitchell wrote:
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this: My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief. And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it! It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics. Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.
'Boober', thanks!
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
https://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
https://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.
Well, I liked the song, anyway, but after having watched that video, I have to say this: My jaw dropped, I was completely riveted to the screen, and I kept shaking my head in disbelief. And now I want to share it with everyone I know and tell them that a bunch of KIDS did it! It's wicked-good - I love all the different aspects they picked up on from the lyrics. Excellent, excellent work. Those young adults can be very proud, and perhaps a little gloating would not be inappropriate!
Thanks for sharing this. I am humbled.
boober wrote:
That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
https://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.
The little buggers have an artistic flair....and good taste in music.Good job teach!
'Boober', thanks!That link's dead. I guess this year's teacher killed the student blogs. Damn shame. Here's the video on my Vimeo site.
https://vimeo.com/23420607
Really nice job by the boys.
Alexandra wrote:
Also the singer is somewhat reminiscent of Lennon - maybe the Beatles, had they stayed together in the '80's and John had lived.
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
Also the singer is somewhat reminiscent of Lennon - maybe the Beatles, had they stayed together in the '80's and John had lived.
Oh how I love this band...
This is not their best song, but even their worst is still 8.
michaelgmitchell wrote:
michaelgmitchell wrote:
AND ... here's the link to one of their blogs, which will show the video. The boys did an amazing job. I think Doves would be flattered.
Cheers,
M.
The little buggers have an artistic flair....and good taste in music.Good job teach!Some of my students are doing a video of this tune for their music project this term. Looking forward to their interpretations.
AND ... here's the link to one of their blogs, which will show the video. The boys did an amazing job. I think Doves would be flattered.
Cheers,
M.
Alexandra wrote:
It sounds a bit like Wire's "Eardrum buzz" to me.
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
It sounds a bit like Wire's "Eardrum buzz" to me.
Alexandra wrote:
I never thought of that comparison, but now that you mention it I hear it in this song for sure. I am a huge New Order fan, perhaps that is why I am partial to Doves too!
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
I never thought of that comparison, but now that you mention it I hear it in this song for sure. I am a huge New Order fan, perhaps that is why I am partial to Doves too!
michaelgmitchell wrote:
AND ... here's the link to one of their blogs, which will show the video. The boys did an amazing job. I think Doves would be flattered.
Cheers,
M.
Some of my students are doing a video of this tune for their music project this term. Looking forward to their interpretations.
AND ... here's the link to one of their blogs, which will show the video. The boys did an amazing job. I think Doves would be flattered.
Cheers,
M.
This really has a hint of New Order in it, huh? I like The Doves a lot.
Cynaera wrote:
I personally think it's a 7 because it really sounds like their other stuff, not to mention a ton of other stuff. Although they did basically invent this sound, they really haven't innovated it much. When I first heard them circa 2001 I thought they were going to be the next thing, but I really think they turned out to be another cold play: one innovation and done.
Bumping this from 8 to 9 - it's really starting to grow on me!
I personally think it's a 7 because it really sounds like their other stuff, not to mention a ton of other stuff. Although they did basically invent this sound, they really haven't innovated it much. When I first heard them circa 2001 I thought they were going to be the next thing, but I really think they turned out to be another cold play: one innovation and done.
Bumping this from 8 to 9 - it's really starting to grow on me!
Dang it! just got back to my computer to see that I missed this...
love this album, and pretty much all they have done. Please play catch the sun, cuz it has been grey and gloomy here...
love this album, and pretty much all they have done. Please play catch the sun, cuz it has been grey and gloomy here...
THIS IS "MUSIC" AS I NEED IT...!
GORGEOUS!!
GORGEOUS!!
Some of my students are doing a video of this tune for their music project this term. Looking forward to their interpretations.
SURPRISINGLY GOOD!
westslope wrote:
Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.
no gunplay at altamont
Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.
no gunplay at altamont
Dior wrote:
It's one of the best britpop albums I have ever heard! Teen music with adult content in perfect balance!
Howdy Dior! That is an interesting comment. Is it the driving techno-like beat that suggests "teen music"?
BTW, does Britpop make your teeth go bad?
westslope wrote:
Hey, they don't call us Stabmonton for nothing, you know. Major problem with knives here in the last five years or so.
But yeah...as an ex-Vancouverite, the gang problem there is mounting heavily. Good luck my friend, keep ur head down.
DigitalJer
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Hey DigitalJer, In the spirit of friendly rivalry between neighbouring provinces, I would like to point out to your embarrassment that Edmonton is no longer the MURDER CAPITAL OF CANADA.
Greater Vancouver took that honour earlier this year (and the targeted hand-gun murders continue).
Hey, they don't call us Stabmonton for nothing, you know. Major problem with knives here in the last five years or so.
But yeah...as an ex-Vancouverite, the gang problem there is mounting heavily. Good luck my friend, keep ur head down.
SPECIAL!
DigitalJer
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
(Edmonton, Alberta, Canada)
Hey DigitalJer, In the spirit of friendly rivalry between neighbouring provinces, I would like to point out to your embarrassment that Edmonton is no longer the MURDER CAPITAL OF CANADA.
Greater Vancouver took that honour earlier this year (and the targeted hand-gun murders continue).
We're so proud!
In passing I would like to thank the American neighbours for supplying most of the illegal hand guns. Without you we would feel so "left out", so "unimportant", so "insecure". THANK YOU!
Darkmatter wrote:
Oh, agreed! This is what the last New Order album should have been like. Luckily, we have Doves to pick up where they left off.
I think these folks are much better than New Order, although I did like Power, Corruption and Lies...
Oh, agreed! This is what the last New Order album should have been like. Luckily, we have Doves to pick up where they left off.
I think these folks are much better than New Order, although I did like Power, Corruption and Lies...
lophrequa wrote:
Oh, agreed! This is what the last New Order album should have been like. Luckily, we have Doves to pick up where they left off.
NewOrderKraftwerk tastiness! nice
Oh, agreed! This is what the last New Order album should have been like. Luckily, we have Doves to pick up where they left off.
Anyone notice where the arpeggio comes from?
westslope wrote:
Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.
where is the +8 funny?
Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.
where is the +8 funny?
It's one of the best britpop albums I have ever heard! Teen music with adult content in perfect balance!
Pyro wrote:
Pyro wrote:
the more I listen, the more I like....
NewOrderKraftwerk tastiness! nice
One of the first Doves songs I've heard that I actually like.
jim1964 wrote:
Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.
They opened their show in Vancouver last night with this song, ...man these guys can play! Interestingly the band requested that all beer be served in plastic cups not the usual glass, they must be used to tough audiences.
Well, as long as there was no gun play in the concert, everything is cool.
Was about to give it a 4, but it just got good. This one is a grower.
Yawn.
They opened their show in Vancouver last night with this song, ...man these guys can play! Interestingly the band requested that all beer be served in plastic cups not the usual glass, they must be used to tough audiences.
Tasty!
Yah, baby!
the more I listen, the more I like....
Growing 8 -> 9
Ohhh... I'm lovey Dovey!
Oooh. This is the first time I've managed to catch this one. Diggin' it.
Sounds like the Doves, but like they've been feeding on a New Order diet since their last album.
Sounds like the Doves, but like they've been feeding on a New Order diet since their last album.
New Doves Order.
ercasul wrote:
I suspect that when the CD gets released and Bill can add a few more tracks, you'll hear less of this one and more of the newer stuff
And now Bill tells us the album isn't even out until April, so I guess we haven't even hit the heavy rotation yet.
I suspect that when the CD gets released and Bill can add a few more tracks, you'll hear less of this one and more of the newer stuff
Had this stuck in my head all weekend, which means it's either 'really good' or 'really bad but has a clever hook'. At the moment I'm tending to the 'really good' , but things could change after a few more thousand listens.
And now Bill tells us the album isn't even out until April, so I guess we haven't even hit the heavy rotation yet.
And now Bill tells us the album isn't even out until April, so I guess we haven't even hit the heavy rotation yet.
Thank you RP for turning me on to the Doves...
toterola wrote:
Letters.
Noise.
Letters.
Noise.
jagdriver wrote:
Right-e-o..... it's different enough that I wouldn't recognize it as a Doves track. Is someone else providing the lead vocal on this one?
Jimi Goodwin usually does lead vocals but occasionally one of the other 2 chip in, in this case, Jez Williams does, who also takes lead vocals on 'Words'.
Right-e-o..... it's different enough that I wouldn't recognize it as a Doves track. Is someone else providing the lead vocal on this one?
Jimi Goodwin usually does lead vocals but occasionally one of the other 2 chip in, in this case, Jez Williams does, who also takes lead vocals on 'Words'.
jagdriver wrote:
Right-e-o..... it's different enough that I wouldn't recognize it as a Doves track. Is someone else providing the lead vocal on this one?
The more I hear it, the more I like it, especially when I can turn up the volume and let it blast from the speakers.
Right-e-o..... it's different enough that I wouldn't recognize it as a Doves track. Is someone else providing the lead vocal on this one?
The more I hear it, the more I like it, especially when I can turn up the volume and let it blast from the speakers.
Had this one on repeat for three days running!
Hearing this for the 3rd time now, and i had to come back to the computer to see who it was.
I guess its got a good hook for me.
If the rest of the album is like this i'll probably be seeking this one out.
Thanks again RP.
I guess its got a good hook for me.
If the rest of the album is like this i'll probably be seeking this one out.
Thanks again RP.
A good segue from this song should be the My Morning Jackets song...come on Bill, you are supposed to know these before I think of them.
peter_james_bond wrote:
Right-e-o..... it's different enough that I wouldn't recognize it as a Doves track. Is someone else providing the lead vocal on this one?
I've got to be honest, I'm a little disappointed. Maybe it will grow on me.
Right-e-o..... it's different enough that I wouldn't recognize it as a Doves track. Is someone else providing the lead vocal on this one?
7 -> 8
Crank it up!
Tell me about the drummer.
I've got enough fuel here to get to next galaxy!
fatfigo_UK wrote:
aha! no wonder i love it
Nice tunes.... once again Doves do Manchester proud!!!
aha! no wonder i love it
The Doves fly high around our house. Great sound!
tm wrote:
Won't know for a couple months - CD get's released on April 6th. This is just a teaser track - not even their first official single.
How is the rest of this album? I really like this...
Won't know for a couple months - CD get's released on April 6th. This is just a teaser track - not even their first official single.
Nice tunes.... once again Doves do Manchester proud!!!