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Ryan Adams — Cold Roses
Album: Cold Roses
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Released: 2005
Length: 4:31
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The mirrors in the room go black and blue
On a Sunday morning in her Saturday shoes
We don't choose who we love
We don't choose

The lights over the Midway melt on the street
In a Sunday shoes, with her Saturday feet
She don't love who she choose
She don't need what she use

Daylight comes and exposes
Saturday's bruises and cold roses
Cold roses

Nothing but the sunlight will help you grow
From underneath your bed you can't see the window
We don't choose what we see
We don't choose

Fortunate and angry just like a child
All that money buys you medicine but can't buy you time
We don't choose what we love
And she don't need what she got

Daylight comes and exposes
Saturday's bruises and cold roses
Cold roses
Cold roses

Cold roses
Cold roses
Cold roses
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If if there was a button labeled. Remove this artist from your RP feed,  I'd press it.
This gets upped to a 10
Thought it was the Dead lol :)
I absolutely love the raw sound of this track. Also check out „Easy Plateau“ of the same album if you appreciated this one.
 jonahboo wrote:
very cool song - channeling Garcia for sure and the band is excellent for this period!
 
I agree; since they are following up with Playing with the Band, apparently we are not the only ones who think this.  
And then there is a point where the guitarist is also doing a bit of a rendition of Neil Young's guitar work.
Jack White's brother, separated at birth.
 jonahboo wrote:
very cool song - channeling Garcia for sure and the band is excellent for this period!
 
For ... 2005?
very cool song - channeling Garcia for sure and the band is excellent for this period!
 Webfoot wrote:

Or, rate the songs however you want.

 

{#High-five}
Phenomenal song!  
Keller Williams does an album of just covers and the cover of this song may be the highlight of a great album.  Worth a listen... 
 Proclivities wrote:

Saying that might get you tossed from one of this guy's shows, but apparently he'll give you a refund.

 
Kaisersosay wrote:

I was actually enjoying this song, until I read the link. Had no idea he was a dick . Song gets a -1 ...for being a dick

 
There is no reason to stop enjoying a song over a 15 year old hit-piece originally reported in The Tennessean in 2002.  The song is good.  Enjoy.

Some additional facts regarding the hit-piece (reposted to Billboard that year) that was provided as a link:

1. No one was tossed out of the concert that is featured in the article
2. This was Ryan Adams first extended tour as a solo artist and was mostly acoustic.
3. The fan was repeatedly disruptive during an a capella rendition of a quiet song (with guest musicians on stage)
4. The fan was heckling throughout 7 songs in total during the show (all acoustic).
5. Members of the audience were all too happy to identify the, likely drunken, heckler.
6. He paid the heckler $40 (not $30).
7. The article resulted in many copycat hecklers at later Adams performances.
8. Ryan occasionally plays both Run To You and Summer of '69, by Bryan Adams, in concert.
9. We've probably all sat next to a jacka$$, like the one described, at a concert at some point and hoped for relief.  Apparently, most who attended thought Ryans actions were hilarious and justified.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/arts/music/ryan-adams-the-first-time-i-was-rattled-by-a-heckler.html?_r=0
 Stephen_Phillips wrote:

I keep saying this to all those people who downgrade a song because of the of the singer - so I will say it again... if you don't like a person because or their personality, antics, actions etc then that is OK but do not downgrade a song because of that. Names that might come to mind are Van Morrison, Bono and now you are going to add Ryan Adams. 

By all means comment about the person but leave the rating of a song independent of all that. 

 
Or, rate the songs however you want.
 Kaisersosay wrote:

I was actually enjoying this song, until I read the link. Had no idea he was a dick . Song gets a -1 ...for being a dick

 
Sounds like that "fan" was being a dick. +1
 Kaisersosay wrote:

I was actually enjoying this song, until I read the link. Had no idea he was a dick . Song gets a -1 ...for being a dick

 
I keep saying this to all those people who downgrade a song because of the of the singer - so I will say it again... if you don't like a person because or their personality, antics, actions etc then that is OK but do not downgrade a song because of that. Names that might come to mind are Van Morrison, Bono and now you are going to add Ryan Adams. 

By all means comment about the person but leave the rating of a song independent of all that. 
I'll add to the "great segue" chorus.  
 Proclivities wrote:

Saying that might get you tossed from one of this guy's shows, but apparently he'll give you a refund.

 
I was actually enjoying this song, until I read the link. Had no idea he was a dick . Song gets a -1 ...for being a dick
this is great. Kudos to Ryan for nailing the tone down. jus perfect.
 
 thatslongformud wrote:
Great seque from Playing in the Band!  that guitar riff is very Dead-like!

 
Was just thinkin that too... Bill is the segue master, one of my favorite things about RP.
 netskink wrote:
My apologies fellow listeners, but I must say, "Summer of 69!"

 
There is nothing wrong with either Adams so no apologies for either are necessary.
 Aud wrote:


There is a part in the song that he sounds like a wailing Leon Russell....good or bad? I don't know....

 
imo the entire song is quite good  (Russell-ee good  : )
instant 9. I loved Ryan Adams, specially in that period of time. It seems to be over. Anyway great artist!
 netskink wrote:
My apologies fellow listeners, but I must say, "Summer of 69!"

 
Saying that might get you tossed from one of this guy's shows, but apparently he'll give you a refund.
Great seque from Playing in the Band!  that guitar riff is very Dead-like!
My apologies fellow listeners, but I must say, "Summer of 69!"
 helgigermany wrote:
very nice song!

 
Agreed. Homages to Grateful Dead and Neil Young here, but some nice themes and riffs of his own.
very nice song!
 WonderLizard wrote:

Relax. Bill expelled Excelsior from the site almost five years ago.

 
Seems like only yesterday.......
 pwbos wrote:
Inspiration lost ?
Too much Greatfull Dead. They do better

 
The album was an homage to the Grateful Dead on the 10th anniversary of Jerry Garcia's death so maybe there is a reason for the similarity.  Of course the Grateful Dead do a better job of sounding like the Grateful Dead.  That, however, does not mean that this work is uninspired.  I think Ryan got this one right and, in the process, expanded the boundaries of his own sound.
Inspiration lost ?
Too much Greatfull Dead. They do better
 WonderLizard wrote:

Relax. Bill expelled Excelsior from the site almost five years ago.

 
Ryan Adams:  11 albums in 12 years.  3 of them double discs like Cold Roses.  Over 150 new songs since 2000.  Do we really need people tearing artists down because they are just too damn prolific?!
 dig wrote:
Do you ever have anything good to say? Ever? Don't make me sic h8rhater on you.

 
Relax. Bill expelled Excelsior from the site almost five years ago.
Megafaun - Real Slow
Ryan Adams - Cold Roses

Bill listens. Remember this.
 Excelsior wrote:
This moron doesn't have a shred of talent... but from everything I've heard, he's got one of the biggest egos in the business.  {#No}

  Do you ever have anything good to say? Ever? Don't make me sic h8rhater on you.




 hippiechick wrote:
This guy is married to Mandy Moore. Huh?


 
I know. He's so much cooler than her.
Love it, one of his best!
 yanmar wrote:
Thanks Bill.  Ryan Adams puts out great music.  His writing is complex and interesting, although his voice is an acquired taste.  That said, sometimes I can't fathom what goes on in the minds of those who post here. 
 

There is a part in the song that he sounds like a wailing Leon Russell....good or bad? I don't know....
GOOOOOOD STUFF HERE..... {#Clap}
cool!!
7=>9 this is hitting the spot for me today.
I was just commenting how Megafaun "Real Slow" reminds me of this song, and voila!  Nice call Bill.
Thanks Bill.  Ryan Adams puts out great music.  His writing is complex and interesting, although his voice is an acquired taste.  That said, sometimes I can't fathom what goes on in the minds of those who post here. 
I agree with bachbeet (I hope I remembered your name correctly) - Ryan Adams...horrible..like Hank Williams III. ugh
 fredriley wrote:

Us IT techs have a name for that technique: percussive maintenance :o)
 
I've been known to do that to a few systems from time to time.  It's a shame that I can't use that technique on a few users as well.
I wouldn't care if I never heard this song again.
 fredriley wrote:

Us IT techs have a name for that technique: percussive maintenance :o)
 
Thanks, Fred - I had a television set once - it was one of those with tubes, so it had to warm up. And when it warmed up, sometimes the picture was vertical lines, or horizontal ones, depending on its mood on any given day. I'd have to smack it upside the head, literally, to get the picture to clear.  Percussive Maintenance. I always thought I was torturing inanimate objects out of desperation, but your term makes it sound... clinical and neutral.

Now, I just have to stop attaching human characteristics to inanimate objects.

 bpkengor wrote:

Do both!    Keep the cats (they need you!) & keep commenting (more entertaining than most!)

 
Awww - thanks, bpkengor.  The cats remain (a little more well-adjusted due to my brother's introduction to "Flying Lessons.") Kidding. He'd no more hurt a cat than he'd break his own arm, uh, intentionally. Finally got a new flat-screen monitor, but I have to lay it face-down at night because the afore-mentioned "well-adjusted cats" treat it like a badminton net without the birdie. And how weird is THAT - they ignore a birdie and bat the net? It's durable, but better to take temptation out of the way. The next thing is that electrified wire mesh across the windows. Kidding.

And I still love this song (yanking the topic back to music, probably far too late for repair.) {#Doh}
 fredriley wrote:
Ow! That voice! It's just so painful to my ears. In the same vein as the singer from the Kings of Leon, except an order of magnitude worse in the nasal whining .
 
Maybe you should treat yourself to a good pair of speakers? ;)

I actually think Ryan Adams is a great singer. Honest, real, and he can pull of a lot of styles: from Mick Jagger like rock to very emotional ballads.

Kings of Leon is not my thing either though. 

Nice segue from this song to the Dead's "Playing in the Band." The guitar at the beginning of Cold Roses sounds a lot like the Dead to my inexperienced ears. 
Co-oh-oh-oh-old noses... With that voice, yer man sounds like a wolf howling, but rather less tuneful. A voice that hurts these ears, sadly :(
 Cynaera wrote:
I just love that guitar lick. In between smacking my stupid computer monitor (because the picture keeps reducing and a healthy whack to the face or the top makes it go back to full-size)
 
Us IT techs have a name for that technique: percussive maintenance :o)


Nice example of a well composed rock song.
 Marcuse wrote:

Speaking of whining....
 
Singing of whining...

 Cynaera wrote:
I just love that guitar lick. In between smacking my stupid computer monitor (because the picture keeps reducing and a healthy whack to the face or the top makes it go back to full-size) and the constant hissing/snarling/growling of the additional cats we're fostering, I'm at least able to hear part of this and know that I like it. Because of that guitar lick.

I seriously need to either stop commenting or get rid of some cats so I can seriously comment.
 
Do both!    Keep the cats (they need you!) & keep commenting (more entertaining than most!)

I just love that guitar lick. In between smacking my stupid computer monitor (because the picture keeps reducing and a healthy whack to the face or the top makes it go back to full-size) and the constant hissing/snarling/growling of the additional cats we're fostering, I'm at least able to hear part of this and know that I like it. Because of that guitar lick.

I seriously need to either stop commenting or get rid of some cats so I can seriously comment.
 madaxeman wrote:
I can't understand the crap that Ryan Adams gets heaped upon his head.
In these days of manufactured pop, he shines like a beacon for his wilful and headstrong insistence on going his own way. He's a relatively young guy who has a huge back catalogue to his name already. My only criticism is that a bit of quality control might not be a bad idea, but I'll take him as he comes rather than not at all
 

I think a lot of the negativity is based on his personality - I've heard he's very unreliable and, even by rock star standards, unbearably arrogant. And that's the opinion of some very reasonable, decent people, so...
But, good tunes. I'd love to see him perform, but I've heard he's really unpleasant at concerts (usually very late, rude, etc) so until I hear otherwise, I won't be standing at a concert waiting for him to come out of his dressing room.

 fredriley wrote:
Ow! That voice! It's just so painful to my ears. In the same vein as the singer from the Kings of Leon, except an order of magnitude worse in the nasal whining .
 
Speaking of whining....
{#Clap}

Yes!
Ow! That voice! It's just so painful to my ears. In the same vein as the singer from the Kings of Leon, except an order of magnitude worse in the nasal whining .
Isn't that guitar riff right out of Dark Star?

v. bearsville to me.....


wow...why are the vocals trying to sound like stephen tyler?..ryan adams is really good just trying to sound like himself!  but it's cool that he's paying homage to jerry garcia and the dead...you can really hear that in this song....


almost thought this was the Dead at first too...  cool early dead vibes.

Rock on

Solid 8 
Smoove_D wrote:

Allow me to bump your excellent comment to the top. Ryan Adams might not be the best singer out there (which he admitted in one of his songs), but he's writes some damn good songs and goes his own way.

 madaxeman wrote:
I can't understand the crap that Ryan Adams gets heaped upon his head.
In these days of manufactured pop, he shines like a beacon for his wilful and headstrong insistence on going his own way. He's a relatively young guy who has a huge back catalogue to his name already. My only criticism is that a bit of quality control might not be a bad idea, but I'll take him as he comes rather than not at all
 
Bump again.

 Taraincognito wrote:
Channeling Robert Hunter and Jerry Garcia?
 
And those who came before them as well.  The guy writes fantastic Traditionals just like those authors and many others.  If you like Americana, Traditionals, Country-Rock, Alt-country (whatever you want to call it)... this guy is one of the best to come along.

 wrangler wrote:


uh, no?  {#Cowboy}
 
Uh, yes!

This CD is an homage to Jerry, one of Ryan's influences, written and released 10 years after Jerry's death.  There's a great song on the disc, titled Rosebud, that is about Jerry's most famous guitar.

Sounds like the beginning of a theme - "songs by people shouting into the microphone"

Time to see what SOMA is up to this morning . . .
Ryan Adams, meh. {#Eh}
 etwilson wrote:
I keep wanting to like this guy but his stuff just never really does much for me. I'd rather just listen to American Beauty than this.
 
Never liked the Dead but like Ryan Adams.  Go figure ...

 Taraincognito wrote:
Channeling Robert Hunter and Jerry Garcia?
 

uh, no?  {#Cowboy}
Beautiful guitarwork.  Cringe-worthy vocals.  :-(
This guy is married to Mandy Moore. Huh?

Sounds like terrapin station mixed with some stones album.  I like.
First song I've heard from him I have liked.  Will have to take a closer listen to more.
Channeling Robert Hunter and Jerry Garcia?
 Finn_Ninja wrote:
Ryan Adams and Neal Casal.  Gotta love 'em!
 

nope!!  no ya don't!!
Ryan Adams and Neal Casal.  Gotta love 'em!
I love this album. Don't really care if he's got a big head or not. He's got the chops.
 Excelsior wrote:
This moron doesn't have a shred of talent... but from everything I've heard, he's got one of the biggest egos in the business.  {#No}
 
Ryan > trolls

madaxeman wrote:
I can't understand the crap that Ryan Adams gets heaped upon his head.
In these days of manufactured pop, he shines like a beacon for his wilful and headstrong insistence on going his own way. He's a relatively young guy who has a huge back catalogue to his name already. My only criticism is that a bit of quality control might not be a bad idea, but I'll take him as he comes rather than not at all

Allow me to bump your excellent comment to the top. Ryan Adams might not be the best singer out there (which he admitted in one of his songs), but he's writes some damn good songs and goes his own way.


Nice homage Ryan.


This moron doesn't have a shred of talent... but from everything I've heard, he's got one of the biggest egos in the business.  {#No}
The Quick and the Dead? 

(Quicksilver Messenger Service and the Grateful Dead)
 erichb wrote:
Memo to Ryan Adams: you are no Jerry Garcia, my friend.
 
I guess that means that you are no Steinbeck....  {#Roflol}

ilibjorn wrote:
what's the obsession with comparison? It's like tryin' to tell Kobe to not play like Michael. Jeez.
Kobe's in a band?
jarrudy wrote:
besides messing up the song lyrics to numerous songs (all while playing one of jerry's guitars...blasphemy!)
I'd say he was just channeling Jerry in the 80's I really dig the majority of this CD
erichb wrote:
Memo to Ryan Adams: you are no Jerry Garcia, my friend.
Really? I thought this was the Dead at first.
I can't understand the crap that Ryan Adams gets heaped upon his head. In these days of manufactured pop, he shines like a beacon for his wilful and headstrong insistence on going his own way. He's a relatively young guy who has a huge back catalogue to his name already. My only criticism is that a bit of quality control might not be a bad idea, but I'll take him as he comes rather than not at all
Sounds like the guitarist is playing along to a different tune.
Flawed argument. I know lots of non-famous people who use their middle name. Maybe he just likes Ryan better than David. rocteur wrote:
According to Wikepedia he was born David Ryan Adams .. So he must be looking for the publicity for using his middle name.... If he wasn't looking for the publicity he'd be David Adams... Not a bad song though!
horstman wrote:
Yeah, the Dead comparisons are pretty accurate and quite frankly, I'll buy this album simply cause it's original and Jerry is dead. I also hear a bit of the strained emotion of Blind Melon in the lyrics/singing. I have one of Ryan Adams albums and it didn't do a lot for me. It's okay but I didn't find myself putting it on the mp3 player much. Will give this one a chance. Ryan seems worth it. Solid 8.
i saw him with phil and friends at red rocks, and besides messing up the song lyrics to numerous songs (all while playing one of jerry's guitars...blasphemy!), he gave off a really agro vibe. having said that, i'm still trying to give him a chance because he seems to have some talent in there somewhere. but then bob dylan comes on, and i remember what a truly talented songwriter sounds like, and i give up on him again. it's quite the dilemma...
Memo to Ryan Adams: you are no Jerry Garcia, my friend.
almost anything from ryan adams gets a 7 minimum from me. Except HalloweenHead, which is a piece of crap, it gets a 1. love ryan adams. i wonder if its a man crush.
It's okay I suppose.
No comparisons here, it's just a mess plain and simple.
what's the obsession with comparison? It's like tryin' to tell Kobe to not play like Michael. Jeez.
Oooh, this gives me chills. "We don't choose who we love."
I keep wanting to like this guy but his stuff just never really does much for me. I'd rather just listen to American Beauty than this.
Reminds me also of the Stones' Dead Flowers
Very Grateful Deady. I like it.
yyYyeeeeeeeeeaaah!!!! one of my favorites on the album "we don't choose who we love....we don't choose!!"
I've liked some of this guy's stuff, but this is unbearable. The raspy routine is way forced here on the verse, and then that awful belly-aching on the chorus... oooooff! I'd better go before it gets worse.
That story is turning into myth. Saw him at the beginning and end of the Gold tour in San Francisco and they were two of the best shows I've ever seen in my life. Hope he survives his own genius.
Imkirok wrote:
Was in a club when Ryan was playing a couple of years ago. Someone in the crowd yelled out "Play Summer of '69!" (the BRYAN Adams song). Ryan got so pissed he walked off stage. Good musician, but a little full of himself, IMHO.
Some truth, some embellishment, but it happened in Nashville: https://www.chartattack.com/damn/2002/10/1709.cfm
rocteur wrote:
According to Wikepedia he was born David Ryan Adams .. So he must be looking for the publicity for using his middle name.... If he wasn't looking for the publicity he'd be David Adams... Not a bad song though!
Funny thing is he gets really angry if anyone calls him Bryan.... There was a show early in his career when people were yelling for him to play Summer of 69. He stormed off the stage, never to return.
ArmchairMusician wrote:
This time the beginning reminded me of old J Walsh/James Gang. I hear a little Neil Young in there - but I heard it really strong in one of his tunes on Gold. Guy is a cameleon - no doubt about it.
Yeah, the Dead comparisons are pretty accurate and quite frankly, I'll buy this album simply cause it's original and Jerry is dead. I also hear a bit of the strained emotion of Blind Melon in the lyrics/singing. I have one of Ryan Adams albums and it didn't do a lot for me. It's okay but I didn't find myself putting it on the mp3 player much. Will give this one a chance. Ryan seems worth it. Solid 8.
dg wrote:
same here - that is, until he started singing. Just bought the disc(s) and still forming an opinion for the whole, but I do like this track.
Exactly...he can't touch the emotion Jerry sang with...I don't like a lot of Ryan's stuff, but this definitly is one of the better ones.
dadofsammy wrote:
Gotta agree with the Dead comparisons...sounds like an attempt to merge Wake of the Flood with Terrapin Station. Not a particularly good idea, that. I've noticed a tendency for Mr. Adams to mimic a number of different styles. That can be considered virtuosity...or lack of originality.
Jerry & Co. are good to take a lesson from though right? Truthfully RA is a truly great artist/musician...tortured and emotional with ability to communicate it...like Paul Westerberg or Elliot Smith.
mojoman wrote:
I thought it was the Grateful Dead!
Likewise.
Bocephus wrote:
same...sounds exactly like a Dead song.
In a good way!
Whoa! Was ignoring the website while working today, but there's just something about this song and the guitar solo at the end. My oh my this is cool!
According to Wikepedia he was born David Ryan Adams .. So he must be looking for the publicity for using his middle name.... If he wasn't looking for the publicity he'd be David Adams... Not a bad song though!
rowdydaisy wrote:
Well so is Bryan Adams. I heard a story about BA propositioning a woman in a grocery store in Sun Valley. "Hi, I'm Bryan Adams, want to go to bed with me?" Oh brother!
He's only full of himself if it didn't work.
everytime i mention ryan adams to anyone they invaribly say "bryan adam?"...ryan is awesome as is his cold roses cd...i wish it had been ryan and not that other guy that had come here last month....
rowdydaisy wrote:
I heard a story about BA propositioning a woman in a grocery store in Sun Valley. "Hi, I'm Bryan Adams, want to go to bed with me?" Oh brother!
Well, he does still feel 18 inside.
Imkirok wrote:
Was in a club when Ryan was playing a couple of years ago. Someone in the crowd yelled out "Play Summer of '69!" (the BRYAN Adams song). Ryan got so pissed he walked off stage. Good musician, but a little full of himself, IMHO.
Well so is Bryan Adams. I heard a story about BA propositioning a woman in a grocery store in Sun Valley. "Hi, I'm Bryan Adams, want to go to bed with me?" Oh brother!
This time the beginning reminded me of old J Walsh/James Gang. I hear a little Neil Young in there - but I heard it really strong in one of his tunes on Gold. Guy is a cameleon - no doubt about it.
He sure knows how to hook you with a nifty little riff; then the rest of the song delivers... Nice.
iTuner wrote:
The Bryan Adams comments are pretty funny.
According to the almighty wikipedia Bryan and Ryan Adams share the same birthday.
Lynyrd Skynyrd reunites for another farewell tour and hires a hair-metal front man for this on-the-road-touring-ballad. Not bad.