Nah. It will be four years of Trump, followed by eight years of DeSantis. The Dems have done this to themselves and will have to sit it out as they rebuild their party and correct from completely losing touch with the voters.
Liberal RPeeps after reading that above:
Yeah, remember when you thought trump was a shoe in for 8 years. And Mittens was going to tromp Obama? What's your overall record now 3/3? We could replace you with a shiny quarter.
Isabeau "Seriously, someone shooting at Hitler before he came to power could've saved a lot of lives. What part of 2025 are you deciding to dismiss?" wrote:
Aw, typical response from the incel peanut gallery!
"Just deny and ignore Project 2025. duly noted. What you don't admit, you won't believe." Isn't Macho Lizard Brain thinking incredible?
So JUST IGNORE WHAT WAS SAID AT THE CONVENTION? IGNORE PROJECT 2025?
You support the convicted RAPIST and FELON and Genitalia Grabber who wants to be dictator on day one? The Retribution and Revenge tour was just a 'joke?'
From the creature that asked for just 11,780 more votes. Or a favor from a foreign leader.
Or incite a riot that resulted in Capitol Police being beaten, and some died in the following days and feces was smeared on the Capitol Walls.
You're voting for THAT guy?
Please pass what you're smoking, its gotta be good stuff.
I'm sorry this is happening to you. Seek professional help.
Aw, typical response from the incel peanut gallery!
"Just deny and ignore Project 2025. duly noted. What you don't admit, you won't believe." Isn't Macho Lizard Brain thinking incredible?
So JUST IGNORE WHAT WAS SAID AT THE CONVENTION? IGNORE PROJECT 2025?
You support the convicted RAPIST and FELON and Genitalia Grabber who wants to be dictator on day one? The Retribution and Revenge tour was just a 'joke?'
From the creature that asked for just 11,780 more votes. Or a favor from a foreign leader.
Or incite a riot that resulted in Capitol Police being beaten, and some died in the following days and feces was smeared on the Capitol Walls.
You're voting for THAT guy?
Please pass what you're smoking, its gotta be good stuff.
I want someone who will walk, not shuffle, who will talk, not mumble. Who can zip back with one-liners not tired tropes about knowing Golda Meir back in the day.
Would you rather have Biden running with $300M, Harris running with $200M, or Whitmer, Newsom, Shapiro, Buttigieg, Jefferies, or someone else coming out of the convention with $150M?
I want someone who will walk, not shuffle, who will talk, not mumble. Who can zip back with one-liners not tired tropes about knowing Golda Meir back in the day.
Where women will be forced birthers and Public School Juniors and Seniors will be tested for Military skill appraisal according to 2025. Private school attendees won't be.
A SCOTUS deciding who has clean water, air and land and who won't, who decides what behavior a President does is 'official' or 'unofficial.'
Sorry Beaks, this nation won't recover.
Christofascism will not be tolerated. I'd rather fight to the death. This country was founded upon Separation of Church and State. As long as an angry 18 year old can get his mitts on an AR-15 and blow away a classroom, members of a synagogue or grocery store shoppers, while CONTROLLING EVERY AMERICAN WOMAN'S BODY on a religious ideology of 'caring about life' is little more than misogyny and selective morality on steroids.
Nah. It will be four years of Trump, followed by eight years of DeSantis. The Dems have done this to themselves and will have to sit it out as they rebuild their party and correct from completely losing touch with the voters.
Where women will be forced birthers and Public School Juniors and Seniors will be tested for Military skill appraisal according to 2025. Private school attendees won't be.
A SCOTUS deciding who has clean water, air and land and who won't, who decides what behavior a President does is 'official' or 'unofficial.'
Sorry Beaks, this nation won't recover.
Christofascism will not be tolerated. I'd rather fight to the death. This country was founded upon Separation of Church and State. As long as an angry 18 year old can get his mitts on an AR-15 and blow away a classroom, members of a synagogue or grocery store shoppers, while CONTROLLING EVERY AMERICAN WOMAN'S BODY on a religious ideology of 'caring about life' is little more than misogyny and selective morality on steroids.
Agreed. And it would surely energize a demoralized party. But back to the party monies. Izzat an election rule that applies to both parties or a DNC thing?
Mah 2¢: If the justification for keeping Biden in the race is knee jerk response to: Referral to the Democratic principles/platform or Joe's Accomplishments.
If we are supposed to not focus on Biden, but the message and vote based on principles, then the figurehead is apparently NOT that important?
He doesn't have to make it for four more years; VP's and grooming other candidates can take place during that time. Honestly, I doubt Biden will make it more than 18 months.
Trump gets in; ain't gonna be 'just four years.' It'll be as long as he wants with the backing of SCOTUS.
Would you rather have Biden running with $300M, Harris running with $200M, or Whitmer, Newsom, Shapiro, Buttigieg, Jefferies, or someone else coming out of the convention with $150M?
Trump gets in; ain't gonna be 'just four years.' It'll be as long as he wants with the backing of the 'Immunity' SCOTUS.
Nah. It will be four years of Trump, followed by eight years of DeSantis. The Dems have done this to themselves and will have to sit it out as they rebuild their party and correct from completely losing touch with the voters.
The money raised by the ticket can't be sent to another candidate without jumping through hoops. One way to do it would be to return the money to the donors...and ask them to support the DNC.
The reality though is that a non-Harris Dem nominee would A) be able to raise money pretty quickly... Newsom raised $50M last race...Whitmer $30M... they'll get enough to get to Chicago easily... and then B) the nominee would pick up a lot of money post-convention. Money isn't one of the big issues (IMO).
Agreed. And it would surely energize a demoralized party. But back to the party monies. Izzat an election rule that applies to both parties or a DNC thing?
Mah 2¢: If the justification for keeping Biden in the race is knee jerk response to: Referral to the Democratic principles/platform or Joe's Accomplishments.
If we are supposed to not focus on Biden, but the message and vote based on principles, then the figurehead is apparently NOT that important?
He doesn't have to make it for four more years; VP's and grooming other candidates can take place during that time. Honestly, I doubt Biden will make it more than 18 months.
Trump gets in; ain't gonna be 'just four years.' It'll be as long as he wants with the backing of SCOTUS.
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Jul 19, 2024 - 1:03pm
rgio wrote:
The money raised by the ticket can't be sent to another candidate without jumping through hoops. One way to do it would be to return the money to the donors...and ask them to support the DNC.
The reality though is that a non-Harris Dem nominee would A) be able to raise money pretty quickly... Newsom raised $50M last race...Whitmer $30M... they'll get enough to get to Chicago easily... and then B) the nominee would pick up a lot of money post-convention. Money isn't one of the big issues (IMO).
Campaign infrastructure might be another problem for a Dem nominee other than Harris.
That's something the DNC is definitely listening to. I'm not sure what the deal is with the money raised by Biden, whether it can only go to Harris because she's part of the ticket the money was pledged to.
I heard that those funds can't/won't (?) be given to any outside candidate, like Gretchen Whitmer (who knows a thing or two about political violence aimed at her) I'd love to see a Whitmer/Cooper (Roy Cooper Governor of NC) But I don't understand why the money the party raised can't go to a new candidate. Is this electoral law or DNC rule?
Anyone?
The money raised by the ticket can't be sent to another candidate without jumping through hoops. One way to do it would be to return the money to the donors...and ask them to support the DNC.
The reality though is that a non-Harris Dem nominee would A) be able to raise money pretty quickly... Newsom raised $50M last race...Whitmer $30M... they'll get enough to get to Chicago easily... and then B) the nominee would pick up a lot of money post-convention. Money isn't one of the big issues (IMO).
Of course. I'm just reporting some rumours I've heard (third hand), from someone inside, that the Dem financial backers who previously funded Biden and Obama, have turned off the tap for Biden, and now want a Kamala - Mark Kelly ticket.
That's something the DNC is definitely listening to. I'm not sure what the deal is with the money raised by Biden, whether it can only go to Harris because she's part of the ticket the money was pledged to.
I heard that those funds can't/won't (?) be given to any outside candidate, like Gretchen Whitmer (who knows a thing or two about political violence aimed at her) I'd love to see a Whitmer/Cooper (Roy Cooper Governor of NC) But I don't understand why the money the party raised can't go to a new candidate. Is this electoral law or DNC rule?
Anyone?
That's not exactly how it works... but Kelly's name has been circling since the debate.
If Biden releases the delegates (and in theory even if he didn't), they can vote for anyone they want when they get to Chicago. There is no guarantee Kamala will get anything. Joe can suggest, but it's out of his hands.
Of course. I'm just reporting some rumours I've heard (third hand), from someone inside, that the Dem financial backers who previously funded Biden and Obama, have turned off the tap for Biden, and now want a Kamala - Mark Kelly ticket.
Rumours: Dem financial backers: Kamala - Mark Kelly (astronaut) as VP
That's not exactly how it works... but Kelly's name has been circling since the debate.
If Biden releases the delegates (and in theory even if he didn't), they can vote for anyone they want when they get to Chicago. There is no guarantee Kamala will get anything. Joe can suggest, but it's out of his hands.
