Tracy Chapman — New Beginning
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The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much pain, too much suffering
Let's resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Now don't get me wrong - I love life and living
But when you wake up and look around at everything that's going down -
All wrong
You see we need to change it now, this world with too few happy endings
We can resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
The world is broken into fragments and pieces
That once were joined together in a unified whole
But now too many stand alone - There's too much separation
We can resolve to come together in the new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
We can break the cycle - We can break the chain
We can start all over - In the new beginning
We can learn, we can teach
We can share the myths the dream the prayer
The notion that we can do better
Change our lives and paths
Create a new world and
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much fighting, too little understanding
It's time to stop and start all over
Make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
We need to make new symbols
Make new signs
Make a new language
With these we'll define the world
And start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over ...
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much pain, too much suffering
Let's resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Now don't get me wrong - I love life and living
But when you wake up and look around at everything that's going down -
All wrong
You see we need to change it now, this world with too few happy endings
We can resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
The world is broken into fragments and pieces
That once were joined together in a unified whole
But now too many stand alone - There's too much separation
We can resolve to come together in the new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
We can break the cycle - We can break the chain
We can start all over - In the new beginning
We can learn, we can teach
We can share the myths the dream the prayer
The notion that we can do better
Change our lives and paths
Create a new world and
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much fighting, too little understanding
It's time to stop and start all over
Make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
We need to make new symbols
Make new signs
Make a new language
With these we'll define the world
And start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over ...
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It's sad when a 30yo song is as true now as then, if not worse. The difference being that there is no longer any hope for a better world :(
I like the part where she says, "start all over"... and she does!
Tracy’s voice is so powerful. Saw her live at Montreux Jazz Festival long time ago. 1982/83? Had goose bumps all over my skin. Still have them when i hear her songs ❤️RP
timmus wrote:
I agree they played that song to death and beyond
Refreshing to hear something of hers besides "Fast Car".
I agree they played that song to death and beyond
Refreshing to hear something of hers besides "Fast Car".
Totally overrated and overplayed.
pcc wrote:
Ya know . . .
Or, if she was older, would T Bone be the male Tracy Chapman?
female T Bone Burnett?
Ya know . . .
Or, if she was older, would T Bone be the male Tracy Chapman?
Well......Its time...Really
MattRudely wrote:
Where do you hear "without a plan"?
We can resolve to come together in the new beginning
Let's just tear it down with no plan. That's never been a problem before. What's your plan Tracy?
Where do you hear "without a plan"?
We can resolve to come together in the new beginning
radioparadise9 wrote:
How's it working out for you?
Tired of winning yet?
Not laughing with you ... laughing at you
whining?
How's it working out for you?
Tired of winning yet?
Not laughing with you ... laughing at you
whining?female T Bone Burnett?
No starting over, just evolving. Unless, of course, the planet gets hit with another one of those Dinosaur killing meteors.
Gave a 7 for the song and a +1 for the production.
Masterpiece
Let's just tear it down with no plan. That's never been a problem before. What's your plan Tracy?
What i like, i can actually understand what she is singing.
what i don't like is actually what she is singing.
only a 5 on this song. wish i liked the lyrics!
what i don't like is actually what she is singing.
only a 5 on this song. wish i liked the lyrics!
She’s still got the vision, the passion, the talent, the message ... just have promote her call ....
jimvanders wrote:
How's it working out for you?
Tired of winning yet?
Not laughing with you ... laughing at you
death, taxes and RP will play Tracy Chapman and Suzanne Vega once an hour.
How's it working out for you?
Tired of winning yet?
Not laughing with you ... laughing at you
Hope!
Wow...never heard that song like I did today, a week+ into all the George Floyd protests, vigils and demonstrations. Maybe we are about to start over?
death, taxes and RP will play Tracy Chapman and Suzanne Vega once an hour.
This is an oddly prescient choice to wake up with on the Monday after the coronavirus scares and mass closure announcements.
These sad songs make me happy, strangely.... jackie0 wrote:
I'm going 7 to 8 on this one today, completely on the strength of jackie0's prose....Long Live RP!!
We are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral.
'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.'
So you get it and then you're a player,
and you don't want to even play in that game.
You want to reclaim your mind
and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers
who want to turn you into a half-baked moron
consuming all this trash that's being manufactured
out of the Bones of a Dying World.
This is why we need a new beginning,
and this song from Chapman is at least a start.
So, thanks Tracy!
'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.'
So you get it and then you're a player,
and you don't want to even play in that game.
You want to reclaim your mind
and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers
who want to turn you into a half-baked moron
consuming all this trash that's being manufactured
out of the Bones of a Dying World.
This is why we need a new beginning,
and this song from Chapman is at least a start.
So, thanks Tracy!
I'm going 7 to 8 on this one today, completely on the strength of jackie0's prose....Long Live RP!!
jackie0 wrote:
Even a year later, every time I read this, it blows me away again. You either are a writer (hopefully), or you should become one. I've never read a more spot on diagnosis of everything that's wrong with our societies in so few words.
We are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral.
'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.'
So you get it and then you're a player,
and you don't want to even play in that game.
You want to reclaim your mind
and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers
who want to turn you into a half-baked moron
consuming all this trash that's being manufactured
out of the Bones of a Dying World.
This is why we need a new beginning,
and this song from Chapman is at least a start.
So, thanks Tracy!
'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.'
So you get it and then you're a player,
and you don't want to even play in that game.
You want to reclaim your mind
and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers
who want to turn you into a half-baked moron
consuming all this trash that's being manufactured
out of the Bones of a Dying World.
This is why we need a new beginning,
and this song from Chapman is at least a start.
So, thanks Tracy!
Even a year later, every time I read this, it blows me away again. You either are a writer (hopefully), or you should become one. I've never read a more spot on diagnosis of everything that's wrong with our societies in so few words.
Great composition from a much underappreciated artist!
8+
8+
Again....an artist that can't be duplicated.You know it's her the minute you hear her.Composer,singer,poet.Her lyrics are timeless!!
This album is gold from start to finish.
Yes, let's start all over again, back to before we had
'If it feels good...do it',
political correctness in the extreme,
fake news (we used to get 'objective news' for us to judge,
now we just get 'reporter's views of everything'.
Back to when people fulfilled their 'responsibilities' rather than demanding their 'rights'.
'If it feels good...do it',
political correctness in the extreme,
fake news (we used to get 'objective news' for us to judge,
now we just get 'reporter's views of everything'.
Back to when people fulfilled their 'responsibilities' rather than demanding their 'rights'.
Did I hear right: "Start all over"...?
jackie0 wrote:
Honestly these are far better lyrics than those of the song.
We are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral.
'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.'
So you get it and then you're a player,
and you don't want to even play in that game.
You want to reclaim your mind
and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers
who want to turn you into a half-baked moron
consuming all this trash that's being manufactured
out of the Bones of a Dying World.
This is why we need a new beginning,
and this song from Chapman is at least a start.
So, thanks Tracy!
Honestly these are far better lyrics than those of the song.
LowPhreak wrote:
Right-wing myopia.
This album is Tracy's best work for me.
Right-wing myopia.
This album is Tracy's best work for me.
daniel_rusk wrote:
Right-wing myopia.
Liberal crap.
Right-wing myopia.
daniel_rusk wrote:
Sad
Liberal crap.
Sad
heyjoe3577 wrote:
Well stated...thanks Jackie and Tracy!
Very well stated! I totally agree. Was just running through these thoughts myself.
Well stated...thanks Jackie and Tracy!
Very well stated! I totally agree. Was just running through these thoughts myself.
Must have taken her damb near all night to write THIS one, Jeezeuzz G A W D.
Wonder how many times she had to start all over start all over start all over.
Not a big fan but this one is a solid 7
good to know all her songs are equally brutal.
7 -> 8
jackie0 wrote:
Well stated...thanks Jackie and Tracy!
We are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral.
'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.'
So you get it and then you're a player,
and you don't want to even play in that game.
You want to reclaim your mind
and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers
who want to turn you into a half-baked moron
consuming all this trash that's being manufactured
out of the Bones of a Dying World.
This is why we need a new beginning,
and this song from Chapman is at least a start.
So, thanks Tracy!
Well stated...thanks Jackie and Tracy!
We are told 'no', we're unimportant, we're peripheral.
'Get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that.'
So you get it and then you're a player,
and you don't want to even play in that game.
You want to reclaim your mind
and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers
who want to turn you into a half-baked moron
consuming all this trash that's being manufactured
out of the Bones of a Dying World.
This is why we need a new beginning,
and this song from Chapman is at least a start.
So, thanks Tracy!
fredriley wrote:
Right on frederica! you forgot to mention the planet ruled by women in:
The 'start all over' sentiments in this song have been a part of radical movements going back to prehistory, including one started 2000 years ago by a carpenter from Palestine. Millennarianism has been going for millennia.
In the modern feminist world, which Tracey Chapman certainly belongs to, there are some millennarian movements that posit a complete break from patriarchy and capitalism, and starting all over again with a new world, culture and language(s). There was a niche of radical feminist science fiction back in the 80s which was explicity about this - for instance, Suzy McKee Charnas Walk to the End of the World and Nicola Griffith's Ammonite.
In the modern feminist world, which Tracey Chapman certainly belongs to, there are some millennarian movements that posit a complete break from patriarchy and capitalism, and starting all over again with a new world, culture and language(s). There was a niche of radical feminist science fiction back in the 80s which was explicity about this - for instance, Suzy McKee Charnas Walk to the End of the World and Nicola Griffith's Ammonite.
Right on frederica! you forgot to mention the planet ruled by women in:
It wasn't until you sang it for the 25th time that I realized you were going to "start all over". Thanks for not stopping at 24, Tracy.
thewiseking wrote:
When you always begin anew, you rarely progress.
always found her amateurish. never moved much beyond the edge of campus coffee shop
When you always begin anew, you rarely progress.
thewiseking wrote:
Thanks for sharing.....
always found her amateurish. never moved much beyond the edge of campus coffee shop
Thanks for sharing.....
always found her amateurish. never moved much beyond the edge of campus coffee shop
Feat. DJ Reedoo! :)
The 'start all over' sentiments in this song have been a part of radical movements going back to prehistory, including one started 2000 years ago by a carpenter from Palestine. Millennarianism has been going for millennia.
In the modern feminist world, which Tracey Chapman certainly belongs to, there are some millennarian movements that posit a complete break from patriarchy and capitalism, and starting all over again with a new world, culture and language(s). There was a niche of radical feminist science fiction back in the 80s which was explicity about this - for instance, Suzy McKee Charnas Walk to the End of the World and Nicola Griffith's Ammonite.
In the modern feminist world, which Tracey Chapman certainly belongs to, there are some millennarian movements that posit a complete break from patriarchy and capitalism, and starting all over again with a new world, culture and language(s). There was a niche of radical feminist science fiction back in the 80s which was explicity about this - for instance, Suzy McKee Charnas Walk to the End of the World and Nicola Griffith's Ammonite.
always have loved her
It's just a song.
Time to separate the theme from the performer.
These lyrics might be inspirational on a personal level for those wishing to leave something behind but reading more into it than that is a little over the top.
Time to separate the theme from the performer.
These lyrics might be inspirational on a personal level for those wishing to leave something behind but reading more into it than that is a little over the top.
"The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing"
evil
evil
The girl just has it goin' on!
The whole album's good.
Interesting choice for election night.
Anybody who makes music for themselves has my respect.
oldsaxon wrote:
Sounds like you're not very keen on doing the work....just sort of, "Oh, God, starting over is too hard....nah, don't wanna do that" Instead of seeing the possibilities of a brave new world, all you see is a lot of hard work.
In both the songs you quoted I see a possible, lovely, new world...but starting over isn't easy, and it would hurt, it usually does for a while. The final outcome is the goal...keep your eye on the goal and do the hard work. It will pay off.
As for your question; "WTF does that mean?"...well...if it isn't plain then you need to relearn your redin. rightin and rithmatic.
I hope you feel better soon, you seem kinda down today.
Amen to that!
Sounds like you're not very keen on doing the work....just sort of, "Oh, God, starting over is too hard....nah, don't wanna do that" Instead of seeing the possibilities of a brave new world, all you see is a lot of hard work.
In both the songs you quoted I see a possible, lovely, new world...but starting over isn't easy, and it would hurt, it usually does for a while. The final outcome is the goal...keep your eye on the goal and do the hard work. It will pay off.
As for your question; "WTF does that mean?"...well...if it isn't plain then you need to relearn your redin. rightin and rithmatic.
I hope you feel better soon, you seem kinda down today.
Amen to that!
(former member) wrote:
Sounds like you're not very keen on doing the work....just sort of, "Oh, God, starting over is too hard....nah, don't wanna do that" Instead of seeing the possibilities of a brave new world, all you see is a lot of hard work.
In both the songs you quoted I see a possible, lovely, new world...but starting over isn't easy, and it would hurt, it usually does for a while. The final outcome is the goal...keep your eye on the goal and do the hard work. It will pay off.
As for your question; "WTF does that mean?"...well...if it isn't plain then you need to relearn your redin. rightin and rithmatic.
I hope you feel better soon, you seem kinda down today.
Talkin bout a Revolution and this song are both about quitting and starting over. Instead of inspirational, it's discouraging and annyoing.
"Too much fighting, not enough understanding. Time to start all over." WTF does that mean?
I used to like her quite a bit, but not much anymore.
"Too much fighting, not enough understanding. Time to start all over." WTF does that mean?
I used to like her quite a bit, but not much anymore.
Sounds like you're not very keen on doing the work....just sort of, "Oh, God, starting over is too hard....nah, don't wanna do that" Instead of seeing the possibilities of a brave new world, all you see is a lot of hard work.
In both the songs you quoted I see a possible, lovely, new world...but starting over isn't easy, and it would hurt, it usually does for a while. The final outcome is the goal...keep your eye on the goal and do the hard work. It will pay off.
As for your question; "WTF does that mean?"...well...if it isn't plain then you need to relearn your redin. rightin and rithmatic.
I hope you feel better soon, you seem kinda down today.
I love the subtle use of Didgeridoo in this song
cohifi wrote:
Maybe what she's trying to say is that we take way too much for granted, we let ourselves and each other get away with stuff that if we really thought about it, is just crazy and evil. We're playing out the Easter Island saga on a planetary scale for example, and hardly anyone who has any political or practical (money) power stops to say "Hey, is this really such a great idea?" Instead we all just sheeple along like its all just the most wonderful agenda anyone could come up with.
Thanks for sharing. It DOES take time: jkhandy wrote:
It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time. Look around you. This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped. Start all over is just that, start all over. How can you not grasp that? Discouraging? Life can be at times. It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.
It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time. Look around you. This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped. Start all over is just that, start all over. How can you not grasp that? Discouraging? Life can be at times. It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.
Maybe what she's trying to say is that we take way too much for granted, we let ourselves and each other get away with stuff that if we really thought about it, is just crazy and evil. We're playing out the Easter Island saga on a planetary scale for example, and hardly anyone who has any political or practical (money) power stops to say "Hey, is this really such a great idea?" Instead we all just sheeple along like its all just the most wonderful agenda anyone could come up with.
This could be a good song for the protests in Madison. It got MY attention!
Thanks for sharing. It DOES take time: jkhandy wrote:
It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time. Look around you. This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped. Start all over is just that, start all over. How can you not grasp that? Discouraging? Life can be at times. It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.
It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time. Look around you. This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped. Start all over is just that, start all over. How can you not grasp that? Discouraging? Life can be at times. It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.
dmax wrote:
It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time. Look around you. This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped. Start all over is just that, start all over. How can you not grasp that? Discouraging? Life can be at times. It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.
Talkin bout a Revolution and this song are both about quitting and starting over. Instead of inspirational, it's discouraging and annyoing.
"Too much fighting, not enough understanding. Time to start all over." WTF does that mean?
I used to like her quite a bit, but not much anymore.
"Too much fighting, not enough understanding. Time to start all over." WTF does that mean?
I used to like her quite a bit, but not much anymore.
It means that we 'humans' have F*^#ed up big time. Look around you. This system doesn't work and needs to be re-vamped. Start all over is just that, start all over. How can you not grasp that? Discouraging? Life can be at times. It's only butterflies in rainbows in fairyland and maybe your mind.
Ummm... All I can say, without talking about the song itself, is this album, when it came out, reminds me of some of the best times in my life.... just a great album to put on and walk away from... before 'playlist'...
nate917 wrote:
1. He may have been quoting from a different songbook but we're all singing the same tune here. And the name is Peter.
2. I did look it up and I'm sorry, but I'm not an apologist!
3. No thank you, once was quite enough.....I can still taste the smoke.
And I thought nate916 was argumentative....Sheesh!
1. btilrn was quoting a different song, pedant. Look it up.
2. You also evidently don't know what an apologist is. Look it up.
3. Agreed, and you're still a pedant. You need to spontaneously combust some more.
2. You also evidently don't know what an apologist is. Look it up.
3. Agreed, and you're still a pedant. You need to spontaneously combust some more.
1. He may have been quoting from a different songbook but we're all singing the same tune here. And the name is Peter.
2. I did look it up and I'm sorry, but I'm not an apologist!
3. No thank you, once was quite enough.....I can still taste the smoke.
And I thought nate916 was argumentative....Sheesh!
peter_james_bond wrote:
1. Here are the lyrics:
Where does it say "another"?
2. That's debatable, just because she plays guitar and sings does not automatically make her a folk singer. Her albums definitely sound more pop/rock than folk to me. I'm not an apologist for her, just a fan defending her work from a mean spirited critic.
3. That's also debatable. I think she does, you think she doesn't. ....and life goes on....
1. btilrn was quoting a different song, pedant. Look it up.
2. You also evidently don't know what an apologist is. Look it up.
3. Agreed, and you're still a pedant. You need to spontaneously combust some more.
1. Here are the lyrics:
Where does it say "another"?
2. That's debatable, just because she plays guitar and sings does not automatically make her a folk singer. Her albums definitely sound more pop/rock than folk to me. I'm not an apologist for her, just a fan defending her work from a mean spirited critic.
3. That's also debatable. I think she does, you think she doesn't. ....and life goes on....
1. btilrn was quoting a different song, pedant. Look it up.
2. You also evidently don't know what an apologist is. Look it up.
3. Agreed, and you're still a pedant. You need to spontaneously combust some more.
Really really really sorry sorry sorry that she started over.
I hope she doesnt start over any more.
hcaudill wrote:
hcaudill, I was looking for a way to write how the lyrics affect me, and there it is: you wrote it all. Thanks!
Vogelfrei wrote:
I think you're missing something, which is easy to do when you paint with broad strokes. ... Notice the tools she chooses: "new symbols, new signs, new language."
Read "1984" if you don't think that "new symbols, new signs, new language" can be scary. The 20th century was replete with attempts to "start all over", all of them at unfathomable human cost. Who knows what was going through Tracy Chapman's mind - I'm sure she didn't mean this as a totalitarian fantasy - but nevertheless this gives me chills, and not in a good way.
I think you're missing something, which is easy to do when you paint with broad strokes. ... Notice the tools she chooses: "new symbols, new signs, new language."
Read "1984" if you don't think that "new symbols, new signs, new language" can be scary. The 20th century was replete with attempts to "start all over", all of them at unfathomable human cost. Who knows what was going through Tracy Chapman's mind - I'm sure she didn't mean this as a totalitarian fantasy - but nevertheless this gives me chills, and not in a good way.
hcaudill, I was looking for a way to write how the lyrics affect me, and there it is: you wrote it all. Thanks!
nate917 wrote:
1. Here are the lyrics:
The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much pain, too much suffering
Let's resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Now don't get me wrong - I love life and living
But when you wake up and look around at everything that's going down -
All wrong
You see we need to change it now, this world with too few happy endings
We can resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
The world is broken into fragments and pieces
That once were joined together in a unified whole
But now too many stand alone - There's too much separation
We can resolve to come together in the new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
We can break the cycle - We can break the chain
We can start all over - In the new beginning
We can learn, we can teach
We can share the myths the dream the prayer
The notion that we can do better
Change our lives and paths
Create a new world and
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much fighting, too little understanding
It's time to stop and start all over
Make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
We need to make new symbols
Make new signs
Make a new language
With these we'll define the world
And start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over ...
Where does it say "another"?
2. That's debatable, just because she plays guitar and sings does not automatically make her a folk singer. Her albums definitely sound more pop/rock than folk to me. I'm not an apologist for her, just a fan defending her work from a mean spirited critic.
3. That's also debatable. I think she does, you think she doesn't. ....and life goes on....
1. The original lyric is "another" folk singer.
2. Yes, she is a folk singer, but it's perfectly fine for you to be her apologist if you want.
3. She does not supply the world with good new tunes.
2. Yes, she is a folk singer, but it's perfectly fine for you to be her apologist if you want.
3. She does not supply the world with good new tunes.
1. Here are the lyrics:
The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much pain, too much suffering
Let's resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Now don't get me wrong - I love life and living
But when you wake up and look around at everything that's going down -
All wrong
You see we need to change it now, this world with too few happy endings
We can resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
The world is broken into fragments and pieces
That once were joined together in a unified whole
But now too many stand alone - There's too much separation
We can resolve to come together in the new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
We can break the cycle - We can break the chain
We can start all over - In the new beginning
We can learn, we can teach
We can share the myths the dream the prayer
The notion that we can do better
Change our lives and paths
Create a new world and
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much fighting, too little understanding
It's time to stop and start all over
Make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
We need to make new symbols
Make new signs
Make a new language
With these we'll define the world
And start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over ...
Where does it say "another"?
2. That's debatable, just because she plays guitar and sings does not automatically make her a folk singer. Her albums definitely sound more pop/rock than folk to me. I'm not an apologist for her, just a fan defending her work from a mean spirited critic.
3. That's also debatable. I think she does, you think she doesn't. ....and life goes on....
peter_james_bond wrote:
But she's not new and she's not a folk singer....she's more of a pop singer who incorporates folk, rock, blues and other styles into her music. And hey, the world can always use a good new tune.
1. The original lyric is "another" folk singer.
2. Yes, she is a folk singer, but it's perfectly fine for you to be her apologist if you want.
3. She does not supply the world with good new tunes.
But she's not new and she's not a folk singer....she's more of a pop singer who incorporates folk, rock, blues and other styles into her music. And hey, the world can always use a good new tune.
1. The original lyric is "another" folk singer.
2. Yes, she is a folk singer, but it's perfectly fine for you to be her apologist if you want.
3. She does not supply the world with good new tunes.
Maybe not a masterpiece lyrically speaking, but I like it's sound.
MJMJ wrote:
I think your music interpretation skills are a bit lacking today.
Blech. She'd like to see the world burn, and she can kiss my butt for that.
I think your music interpretation skills are a bit lacking today.
btilrn wrote:
But she's not new and she's not a folk singer....she's more of a pop singer who incorporates folk, rock, blues and other styles into her music. And hey, the world can always use a good new tune.
What the world needs now
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head.
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head.
But she's not new and she's not a folk singer....she's more of a pop singer who incorporates folk, rock, blues and other styles into her music. And hey, the world can always use a good new tune.
btilrn wrote:
You're so right.
What the world needs now
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head.
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head.
You're so right.
Woops...not a bad song, but following the last three, this threw me off:
Tracy Chapman - New Beginning
Iron & Wine and Calexico - Burn That Broken Be
Johnny Cash - Hurt
Pink Floyd - Sheep
What the world needs now
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head.
is a new folk singer
like I need a hole
in my head.
peter_james_bond wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_jerusalem
Of course she is right, we do need to start all over and redefine the world. The question is how???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_jerusalem
Good Lord, Tracy, how about practicing what you sing. The repetition repetition repetition just doesn't cut it. The refrain is way overdone.
Of course she is right, we do need to start all over and redefine the world. The question is how???
love tracy chapman. muting is an option (for some). and so if cranking up my macbook pro.
Is that a Jew's harp I hear playing faintly in the background? It's the only interesting part so far.
jagdriver wrote:
{...quickly tear headphones off...}
wish you could somehow program the channel to come back on when the song is over. Now I have to keep checking back. Wow - Tracy Chapman is horrible!
{...quickly tear headphones off...}
wish you could somehow program the channel to come back on when the song is over. Now I have to keep checking back. Wow - Tracy Chapman is horrible!
Somebody having a bad lyrics day? Jeez
Vogelfrei wrote:
I think you're missing something, which is easy to do when you paint with broad strokes. ... Notice the tools she chooses: "new symbols, new signs, new language."
Read "1984" if you don't think that "new symbols, new signs, new language" can be scary. The 20th century was replete with attempts to "start all over", all of them at unfathomable human cost. Who knows what was going through Tracy Chapman's mind - I'm sure she didn't mean this as a totalitarian fantasy - but nevertheless this gives me chills, and not in a good way.
I think you're missing something, which is easy to do when you paint with broad strokes. ... Notice the tools she chooses: "new symbols, new signs, new language."
Read "1984" if you don't think that "new symbols, new signs, new language" can be scary. The 20th century was replete with attempts to "start all over", all of them at unfathomable human cost. Who knows what was going through Tracy Chapman's mind - I'm sure she didn't mean this as a totalitarian fantasy - but nevertheless this gives me chills, and not in a good way.
Makes me think of when that song with Destinys Child was popular.."Say my name"...and they repeated that in the song about 5000 times...I woke up from a nap and yep there it was on the stereo, my daughters loved it...I YELLED from the bed room "WILL SOMEBODY SAY HER FU**ING NAME SO SHE'LL SHUT UP"!!!!!! Ahhhh the memories....
Blech. She'd like to see the world burn, and she can kiss my butt for that.
flyboy wrote:
{...quickly tear headphones off...}
mute
{...quickly tear headphones off...}
flyboy wrote:
I'm sorry, I tend to assume that everyone else lives in the same techno-geek, sci-fi dork world that I do. If you don't understand, please disregard.
I guess I missed something, living here on the edge of civilization.
I'm sorry, I tend to assume that everyone else lives in the same techno-geek, sci-fi dork world that I do. If you don't understand, please disregard.
I guess I missed something, living here on the edge of civilization.
Otomi wrote:
Most of us find this song at least pretty good (that is, over 50% of the ratings fall within the 6-10 range), so we don't need to take Flyboy's hyperbole seriously.
I'm sorry, I tend to assume that everyone else lives in the same techno-geek, sci-fi dork world that I do. If you don't understand, please disregard.
Most of us find this song at least pretty good (that is, over 50% of the ratings fall within the 6-10 range), so we don't need to take Flyboy's hyperbole seriously.
I'm sorry, I tend to assume that everyone else lives in the same techno-geek, sci-fi dork world that I do. If you don't understand, please disregard.
vit wrote:
If you're into that whole brevity thing.
If you're into that whole brevity thing.
flyboy wrote:
Most of us find this song at least pretty good (that is, over 50% of the ratings fall within the 6-10 range), so we don't need to take Flyboy's hyperbole seriously.
May this song never be played again.
So say we all.
So say we all.
Most of us find this song at least pretty good (that is, over 50% of the ratings fall within the 6-10 range), so we don't need to take Flyboy's hyperbole seriously.
May this song never be played again.
So say we all.
So say we all.
Excelsior wrote:
for(i=1; i <100;i++) {
print("Start all over.");
}
If you're into that whole brevity thing.
Start all over.
Start all over.
Start all over.
Start all over.
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Start all over. The above was for the benefit of those who happened to be away when this song came on, and wanted to see what they missed.
Start all over.
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Start all over.
Start all over.
Start all over.
Start all over. The above was for the benefit of those who happened to be away when this song came on, and wanted to see what they missed.
for(i=1; i <100;i++) {
print("Start all over.");
}
If you're into that whole brevity thing.
muted.
flyboy wrote:
mute
anotherStart all over.
Start all over.
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The above was for the benefit of those who happened to be away when this song came on, and wanted to see what they missed.
I have always like Tracy! Good stuff.
mute
cattgirl813 wrote:
I remember hearing her once say that she considered music to be her hobby. She went to school to explore a career in anthropology. What an amazing talent.
Can I chip in for a shovel?
bokey wrote:
New Joan Armatrading was released on 4-16-07
It's stellar.
What a load of endless whinge from millionairess Tracy Chapman
Wishful thinking song ...
ughhhh...
On_The_Beach wrote:
Even her "up" songs are downers.
Ack.
ZERO TOLERANCE. MUTE! (And please don't ever start all over...not with this!)
Sorry, you missed about 5000 'start all overs'.
steeler wrote:
They seem fine to me. Appears to be a simple plea for us all to unite.
The whole world's broke and it ain't worth fixing
It's time to start all over, make a new beginning
There's too much pain, too much suffering
Let's resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Now don't get me wrong - I love life and living
But when you wake up and look around at everything that's going down -
All wrong
You see we need to change it now, this world with too few happy endings
We can resolve to start all over make a new beginning
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
Start all over
etc.....
Even her "up" songs are downers.
Ack.
sqqqrly wrote:
Hopefully, this song won't....
A ho hummer
Yeah, getting irritating. How about a redo of the lyrics?
New Joan Armatrading was released on 4-16-07
Vogelfrei wrote:
(oh no!...runs screaming from own brain....)
Notice the tools she chooses: "new symbols, new signs, new language."
Not to complicate things, but some people call that "propaganda." Indeed, Foucault might maintain that symbols and signs are more oppressive and "totalitarian" than certain kinds of institutional violence.
I personally don't think this song is working at that level of depth, though. Unless of course, we read it, self-referentially, as an oppressive text in itself...
hcaudill wrote:
The only difference between a utopian and a totalitarian is that the totalitarian is in power and the utopian isn't.
I think you're missing something, which is easy to do when you paint with broad strokes.
You're right to be wary of those who would bring about their vision of a better world by consolidating power and imposing it by force. But I don't believe Chapman is talking about a Khmer Rouge style overthrow here; she is talking about bringing about a societal change through widespread personal change, changing our world by choosing to change our minds.
Notice the tools she chooses: "new symbols, new signs, new language." Not "new institutions," not "new leaders." If the 20th century taught us nothing else, it's that the latter (powerful institutions) can't change the former (human communities) from the top down. But she is holding out the hope that if we remember our shared humanity, we can revive our human community so that the institutions have no choice but to listen.
Just don't dig Tracy Chapman. She really never has done it for me.
Hopefully, this song won't....
A ho hummer
Mmm... didgeridoo
Go Dems!!!
House *and* Senate. Start all over, indeed!
Just sorta lays there.
Well...she Rocks in concert...the best performer at the 1st Lilith Festival.
I have Tracy's first 3 CDs and listened to them for years.
I think she took a break after her third album and this was
the long awaited fourth record. Never bought it and hardly
ever heard anything from it nor from her more recent CDs.
I think I like her old stuff better but maybe I'm just not in
the mood
This song and Tracey Chapman in general defines the "Ho hum" rating.
I remember hearing her once say that she considered music to be her hobby. She went to school to explore a career in anthropology. What an amazing talent.
normally I dig Tracy .. but this is too repetitive
diane wrote:
When Tracy Chapman arrived on the scene, I anticipated a long relationship with her music. Sad to say, I've come to feel that if you've heard one TC song, you've heard them all. Sigh...
Maybe that is because the message bears repeating . . .